Thanks, Anil ji. -- With regards, J. M. Garg ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 5 Oct, 2020, 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR 2017/16 To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Not matching with Machilus odoratissima. Leaves size and fruits are different. I have send these photographs to Dr. Tapas Ji also. Regards On 10/5/20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > To me appears close to images at Machilus odoratissima > < https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lauraceae/machilus/machilus-odoratissima > > Pl. validate or otherwise. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 13:02 > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR > 2017/16 > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > Cc: Anil Thakur <[email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty < > [email protected]> > > > To me appears close to images at Machilus odoratissima > < https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lauraceae/machilus/machilus-odoratissima > > Pl. validate. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Date: 1 June 2018 at 15:47 > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR > 2017/16 > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > Cc: Anil Thakur <[email protected]>, Nidhan Singh < > [email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > > > Can it be *Persea odoratissima* as per > http://manipurforestflora.co.in/specimen/view/308#prettyPhoto > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Date: 6 April 2017 at 12:55 > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR > 2017/16 > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > Cc: Anil Thakur <[email protected]>, Nidhan Singh < > [email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > > > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > I have also seen this tree, in Mussoorie and in Chakrata area, the input > received is a conflict between the two, Neolitsea pallens and Persia > duthei...all due to the fact that I could not record flower pics on any of > the occasions..!!! > -- > Regards, > Dr. Nidhan Singh > > Dr. Nidhan Singh ji, I have photographs of fruits of Neolitsea pallens with > me. I had photographed them in 2015 & 2016. I was was successful in > clicking the plants in flowering stage this year. Here this plant flowers > in February when no other tree is in flowering stage in Shimla. Even > herbaceous plants are not in flowering except Viola canescens, Valerians > jatamansi and Ainslea aptera. > Regards > Anil Thakur > > PL. see fruits of Persea duthiei at > http://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/11614/_HERBARIUMSPECIMEN_RBGK_UK_K000228447.html > Let us start with the generic identity. Well, *Persea *is a poorly defined > genus, and especially it is difficult to distinguish it from the segregate > genus *Machilus*. However, we may observes the paniculate-cymose type of > infructescences, 6 tepals persistent at the base of the fruits which are > spreading to reflexed (a cupule is absent). The leaves are alternate or > slightly clustered, pinnately veined and glaucous on the undersurface. > These characters conform to the genus *Persea *Mill. as defined by Werff > (in Blumea 46: 125-140. 2001). In absence of a taxononic revision, we have > to depend on the available floristic treatments. I find that the images > posted by you closely match with *Persea duthiei *(King ex Hook.f.) > Kosterm., described from your area.but your photographs are not of *P. > duthiei. *If we consult the protologue of this species and the images of > the type materials housed in the Kew herbarium ( > http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getHomePageResults.do?homePageSearchText=Persea+duthiei&x=10&y=10&homePageSearchOption=scientific_name&nameOfSearchPage=home_page ) > and particularly the image at (http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/ > getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000228447) we find that the fruits are subglobose > and noted to be half inch in diam. (in the protologue) and ca 10 mm in > diam. (as on the type specimens). > Then what is the identity of your plant? The fruits in your plant are > clearly ovoid-ellipsoid and probably much larger in size than in *P. > duthiei *and I also find that the lateral nerves of leaves are fewer in > number. Hence I feel that the present images are very interesting and > need to be studied in detail. You may please collect plenty of herbarium > specimens both in flowering and fruiting and study in detail. The images > are not matching with any species of *Persea *described so far from India > and adjoining areas. > With kind regards, > Tapas. > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> > Date: 7 March 2017 at 21:41 > Subject: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR 2017/16 > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > Cc: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > > > Kindly suggest > Is it some Persea species ?? > Lauraceae > Shimla > May 2016 > > > > > -- > With best Regards, > > Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- With best Regards, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBgZQW45givsNiv3RVasoAXfBzOh8sTvhwOUX%2B2i-1vgw%40mail.gmail.com.
