One more thing, Sir I have seen the plant posted by you as U. ardens. The one posted by me and the other posted by you appear morphologically different to me. I'll check my collection for photographs. These days, I am busy with some other assignments. One new species of Urtica has also got it's entry in H.P. recently, which I'll share later on.
Regards On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, 8:46 am Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> wrote: > Anil ji > The reason being that in most Floras U. ardens has been treated as synonym > of U. parviflora. The size, colour of stipules (plus stinging hairs > distribution as you mentioned) perhaps are too obvious in your specimen, > the only worry split at top, if it is not in other (especially upper > stipules) in most specimens, there should be no problem in taking it as U. > ardens. > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 1:05 AM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Respected Garg Ji >> Only three species of Urtica, i.e. U. dioica, U. parviflora and U. >> hyperborea (alpine region), have been reported from H.P. None of the >> published FLORAS (Flora of Himachal Pradesh by Chowdhery and Wadhwa, >> Flora of Chamba District by Singh and Sharma, Flora Simlensis by >> Collett, Flora of Great Himalayan National Park by Singh and Rawat, >> Flora of Kullu District by Dhaliwal and Sharma, Flora of Sirmaur by >> Kaur and Sharma, Flora of Bashahar Himalaya by Nair) mention the >> occurrence of U. ardens in H.P. The species in the attached >> photographs is most common in this region. >> The attached key from eFlora of China by Dr. Singh Sir has different >> description of the plants than given in local Floras. For example, >> plant height according to eFlora of China is just 50 cm in U. >> parviflora. However, local floras put it at 150 cm. Stipule size has >> been mentioned as 1-2cm in three of the local floras while the others >> are silent. However, eFlora of China mentions the stipule size 4-6 mm. >> Now, my confusion is, which literature to follow. If I follow local >> floras, it should be U. parviflora only. If follow the advice of Singh >> Sir, then question arises, why these authors missed such a very common >> plant. This is most common species in H.P. U. dioica is very rare and >> it took me more than 5 years to locate it. >> Garg ji, my plant is the same plant which has been identified as U. >> parviflora (https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RI3gIPTLJ3A) >> by Singh Sir and not the one posted by Singh Sir as U. ardens. >> I’ll collect more data and will report back soon. >> >> Regards >> >> >> On 10/23/20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi, Anil ji, >> > Any views in the matter pl. >> > >> > On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 21:24, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> >> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 21:32 >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:362452] Fwd: Urtica (Urticaceae) page with >> >> images of species in efloraofindia >> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> Forwarding for ID checking >> >> Looking at the size and colour of stipules, plus as mentioned by Anil >> ji, >> >> presence of lot of stinging hairs, I think this should be U. ardens (U. >> >> parviflora stipules 4-6 mm long, U. ardens 7-14 mm long. The splitting >> >> could be due to age. Please check other stipules especially upper on >> the >> >> plant. The key may be checked: >> >> >> >> Leaf blade ovate to lanceolate, surface wrinkled when dried, margin >> >> sharply doubly serrulate; stem densely pubescent with many stinging >> >> hairs. >> >> >> >> 13 *U*. *ardens* >> >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242353568> >> >> + >> >> Leaf blade lanceolate or rarely narrowly ovate, surface nearly smooth >> >> when >> >> dried, margin crenate or inconspicuously double-denticulate to >> serrulate; >> >> stems sparsely pubescent with a few stinging hairs at least when old. >> >> >> >> 14 *U*. *parviflora* >> >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242353616> >> >> >> >> Group discussion at >> >> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/vG9qYNJDdoU >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> >> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Monday, March 28, 2016 at 6:53:33 PM UTC+5:30 >> >> Subject: Re: Urtica (Urticaceae) page with images of species in >> >> efloraofindia >> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> Cc: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>, Ushadi < >> >> [email protected]>, Nidhan Singh <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *Respected Garg Ji and Dr. Gurcharan Singh SirKindly find attached >> >> photographs of stipules of U. parviflora with cleft.But I have to >> >> tolerate >> >> the nettle stings many times to click these photographs.RegardsANIL >> >> THAKUROn Sunday, 27 March 2016 09:55:48 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote: Dear >> >> members, Pl. go through Urtica >> >> < >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/u/urticaceae/urtica >> > >> >> (Urticaceae >> >> < >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/u/urticaceae>) >> >> page with images of species (mainly done by Gurcharan Singh ji) in >> >> efloraofindia. If you find any mis-identification, pl. let us know. If >> >> anybody can send images of other species of this genera (for >> >> incorporation >> >> in the website), if any, it will be really nice. Also, if anybody is >> >> interested to take up the activity of inserting images on efloraofindia >> >> pages from efloraofindia posts, pl. let us know.-- With >> regards,J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow >> >> Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For >> >> identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >> the >> >> world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >> >> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >> >> (with >> >> a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). 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