Thanks for the elaborate reply.
I was concentrating on the leaf character so the ID came to my mind.
The chances of *Gymnema sylvestre* appear to be high. The other picture
which I have posted from the  same area had diifferent leaves so I concluded
the likely ID in that species but here I was confused due to the leaf shape.
Dr Phadke

On 5 July 2010 11:31, Aparna Watve <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bidaria khandalense (= Gymnema khandalense) is a liane and the most
> characteristic feature of this is presence of "flat corky wings on the
> stem" which are long running along stems. Very few plants have such a
> striking character and it is difficult to miss.
>
> Mishra and Singh (2001) who worked on threatened plants of Maharashtra
> report that it can be distinguished by broadly ovate and densely
> puberulous leaves, orbicular calyx lobes and corolla puberulous on
> both sides. However, I have seen both the plants and wild and do not
> feel this character is strong enough to distinguish them. The winged
> stem character is probably the best one and is very very obvious when
> mature individuals are seen.
>
> I do not see any specific distinguishing character in the photo by Dr.
> Phadke. If you have any more photos, showing any of the distinguishing
> characters we can discuss more on this. I am not aware of B.
> khandalense reports in Amboli, but it certainly is present in
> Khandala, Junnar, Karjat and Koyna forest areas.
>
> However, the chances of the photo belonging to Gymnema sylvestre are
> high as it is a much more common and variable plant.
>
> Regards
> Aparna
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Senthilkumar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Dear Neil
> > Yes. It is Gymnema sylvestre only. Nice photo Mr. Satish.
> > Regards
> > Senthilkumar U.
> >
> > On 5 July 2010 10:05, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
> >> Some earlier relevant feedback:
> >> “Bidaria khandalense(Santapau) Jagtap et Singh is an endemic to the
> region
> >> hence can be a good choice
> >> Tanay”
> >>
> >> “It could be Gymnema sylvestre locally called Madhunashini. Please
> check.
> >>                    Regards,
> >>                      Neil Soares.”
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
> >> Date: 9 June 2010 20:49
> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:37853] Is it Bidaria khandalens?
> >> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
> >>
> >>
> >> This Asclepiadaceae member a climber was observed in Amboli.
> >> 27 May 2010
> >> The leaves appear much longer 8cm or so.
> >> I think this is Bidaria khandalense
> >> Please opine or otherwise.
> >> Regards
> >> Dr Phadke
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