Waiting for this post to be sorted out !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:39 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok.
> Thank you Paradesi ji.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 10:38 pm, Paradesi Anjaneyulu <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Saroj Ji, I haven't experience species level with this genus,
>> With regards.
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 20:25, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Any idea Paradesi Ji ??
>>>
>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin
>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjB_ajkgILsAhWUzTgGHaQgD_AQFjAEegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gbif.org%2Fspecies%2F3933195&usg=AOvVaw18BzR72t48xd5JLim5Qzc2>
>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin
>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjB_ajkgILsAhWUzTgGHaQgD_AQFjAAegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Findiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F251511&usg=AOvVaw0vzJhf_cj7J05Zr_YhV1wY>
>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin
>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjB_ajkgILsAhWUzTgGHaQgD_AQFjABegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plantsoftheworldonline.org%2Ftaxon%2Furn%3Alsid%3Aipni.org%3Anames%3A561824-1&usg=AOvVaw3nbf7bwXz011zK6Vtix6lS>
>>> A contribution to the vascular plant flora of Lower Ladakh
>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi21NC6goLsAhW8zzgGHRqmBOI4FBAWMAZ6BAgHEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.butbn.cas.cz%2Fladakh%2Fpdf%2FKlimes_Dickore.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2EbmadUmKutM7-fOUiVgLr>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> Forwarded Conversation
>>> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:52 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members ,
>>>
>>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot in Nubra Valley on 21 August 2014 at
>>> 11000 ft.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:07 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Malva sp. (Malvaceae).
>>> Please compare with images in *eFI*
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta>
>>> .
>>> Elevation suggest M. neglecta.
>>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following:
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM>
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA>
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 ::
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:12 AM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: C CHADWELL
>>> Date: 23 September 2016 at 23:25
>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, a Malva.
>>>
>>> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh.  Stewart listed 4 species -
>>> these lists do not fully tally.
>>>
>>> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day)
>>> as a weed in potato and corn fields,
>>> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and
>>> along irrigation channels in one part
>>> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread.
>>> Dickore
>>> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as
>>> *M.parviflora*.
>>>
>>> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj
>>> is not) as commonly
>>> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh,
>>> sometimes appearing to
>>> be self-sown.  But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes.
>>>
>>> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in
>>> the 19th Century in Hunza.
>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes  do not mention this.
>>>
>>> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in
>>> Ladakh, so not*
>>> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - which
>>> has been confirmed*
>>> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above),
>>> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and*
>>> *M.sinensis.*
>>>
>>> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other
>>> thoughts/contributions to help this process.  *
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Chadwell
>>>
>>>
>>> 81 Parlaunt Road
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> SLOUGH
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> SL3 8BE
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> UK
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> http://www.shpa.org.uk/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>; D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 23 September 2016, 11:22
>>> *Subject:* Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> Malva sp. (Malvaceae).
>>> Please compare with images in *eFI*
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta>
>>> .
>>> Elevation suggest M. neglecta.
>>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following:
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM>
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA>
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 ::
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, a Malva.
>>>
>>> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh.  Stewart listed 4 species -
>>> these lists do not fully tally.
>>>
>>> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day)
>>> as a weed in potato and corn fields,
>>> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and
>>> along irrigation channels in one part
>>> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread.
>>> Dickore
>>> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as
>>> *M.parviflora*.
>>>
>>> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj
>>> is not) as commonly
>>> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh,
>>> sometimes appearing to
>>> be self-sown.  But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes.
>>>
>>> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in
>>> the 19th Century in Hunza.
>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes  do not mention this.
>>>
>>> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in
>>> Ladakh, so not*
>>> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - which
>>> has been confirmed*
>>> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above),
>>> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and*
>>> *M.sinensis.*
>>>
>>> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other
>>> thoughts/ contributions to help this process. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Best Wishes,Chris Chadwell *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 21 September 2016 at 18:37
>>> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:10 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried further checking on net.
>>> Did not find any images of *M. pamiroalaica *
>>>
>>> Images of *M.pusilla *looked different at
>>> http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/index_class.php?id=16911
>>>
>>> Appears close to images of *Malva parviflora *L. as per
>>> http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Malva_parviflora.htm
>>>
>>> Also see Malva sinensis Cav. at
>>> http://taibif.tw/zh/namecode/203690?order=solr_document_3&sort=desc
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: C CHADWELL
>>> Date: 28 September 2016 at 23:54
>>> Subject: Re: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for additional images etc.
>>>
>>> Have just spotted that Stewart did list *M.pusilla* in his catalogue
>>> but only as a doubtful species -
>>> recorded from Karachi....
>>>
>>> I am in agreement that the images from Nubra do not match those (or
>>> others I have seen) of *M.pusilla.*
>>>
>>> The images we have do not show the flowers fully open or fruits, so that
>>> makes things harder.
>>>
>>> It has similarities to the images of *M.sinensis* but I am uncertain
>>> still.
>>>
>>> We have *M.neglecta* in UK.  The image I have seen of this does not
>>> match.
>>>
>>> *Do not know what M.pamirolaica is and how to distinguish from
>>> M.neglecta - they presumably must be*
>>> *similar for the comment that it may have been misidentified as
>>> M.neglecta.*
>>>
>>> *Still unsure.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * Best Wishes,Chris Chadwell81 Parlaunt Road
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>  SLOUGH
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>SL3
>>> 8BE
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>UK
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>http://www.shpa.org.uk/
>>> <http://www.shpa.org.uk/> ------------------------------ From: J.M. Garg
>>> <[email protected] <[email protected]>> To: efloraofindia
>>> <[email protected] <[email protected]>> Cc: Saroj
>>> Kasaju <[email protected] <[email protected]>>; D.S Rawat
>>> <[email protected] <[email protected]>> Sent:
>>> Wednesday, 28 September 2016, 8:25 Subject: Re: SK112SEP21-2016:ID *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:32 AM
>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Malva pusilla Sm.
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> ??
>>>
>>> http://botanicalillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=637906
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:27 PM
>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Malvaceae
>>>
>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin – 2, 13, 18, 19, 22 [2483], 23, 27. Weed in
>>> potato and corn fields, in gardens, trampled dumpy sites in villages, along
>>> roads, in ditches and along irrigation ca- nals. Previously possibly
>>> misidentified as M. parviflora, see Stewart (1972).  ??
>>>
>>> A contribution to the vascular plant flora of Lower Ladakh
>>> ...www.butbn.cas.cz › ladakh › pdf › Klimes_Dickore
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&ved=2ahUKEwjciZabxNjoAhVTyDgGHQChBHwQFjAQegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.butbn.cas.cz%2Fladakh%2Fpdf%2FKlimes_Dickore.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2EbmadUmKutM7-fOUiVgLr>
>>>
>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin <https://www.gbif.org/species/3933195>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:32 PM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, May be possible.
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>> For identification,
>>>
>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join
>>>
>>> our Efloraofindia
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>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix>
>>> (largest
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>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or
>>>
>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/>
>>> (with a species database of more than
>>>
>>> 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 2,50,000 images are
>>> directly displayed on 31.1.20).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:55 PM
>>> To: Tabish <[email protected]>, [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Tabish,
>>>
>>> Please check and do the needful.
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> Forwarded Conversation
>>> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:52 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members ,
>>>
>>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot in Nubra Valley on 21 August 2014 at
>>> 11000 ft.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:07 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Malva sp. (Malvaceae).
>>> Please compare with images in *eFI*
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta>
>>> .
>>> Elevation suggest M. neglecta.
>>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following:
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM>
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA>
>>> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 ::
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian
>>>
>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>
>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For identification,
>>>
>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join
>>>
>>> our Efloraofindia
>>>
>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix>
>>> (largest
>>>
>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or
>>>
>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/>
>>> (with a species database of more than
>>>
>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>>
>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also author of 'A
>>>
>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:12 AM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: C CHADWELL
>>> Date: 23 September 2016 at 23:25
>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, a Malva.
>>>
>>> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh.  Stewart listed 4 species -
>>> these lists do not fully tally.
>>>
>>> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day)
>>> as a weed in potato and corn fields,
>>> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and
>>> along irrigation channels in one part
>>> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread.
>>> Dickore
>>> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as
>>> *M.parviflora*.
>>>
>>> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj
>>> is not) as commonly
>>> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh,
>>> sometimes appearing to
>>> be self-sown.  But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes.
>>>
>>> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in
>>> the 19th Century in Hunza.
>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes  do not mention this.
>>>
>>> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in
>>> Ladakh, so not*
>>> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - which
>>> has been confirmed*
>>> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above),
>>> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and*
>>> *M.sinensis.*
>>>
>>> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other
>>> thoughts/contributions to help this process.  *
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Chadwell
>>>
>>>
>>> 81 Parlaunt Road
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> SLOUGH
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> SL3 8BE
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> UK
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> http://www.shpa.org.uk/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>; D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 23 September 2016, 11:22
>>> *Subject:* Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:10 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried further checking on net.
>>> Did not find any images of *M. pamiroalaica *
>>>
>>> Images of *M.pusilla *looked different at
>>> http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/index_class.php?id=16911
>>>
>>> Appears close to images of *Malva parviflora *L. as per
>>> http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Malva_parviflora.htm
>>>
>>> Also see Malva sinensis Cav. at
>>> http://taibif.tw/zh/namecode/203690?order=solr_document_3&sort=desc
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:32 AM
>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Malva pusilla Sm.
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> ??
>>>
>>> http://botanicalillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=637906
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:27 PM
>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Malvaceae
>>>
>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin – 2, 13, 18, 19, 22 [2483], 23, 27. Weed in
>>> potato and corn fields, in gardens, trampled dumpy sites in villages, along
>>> roads, in ditches and along irrigation ca- nals. Previously possibly
>>> misidentified as M. parviflora, see Stewart (1972).  ??
>>>
>>> A contribution to the vascular plant flora of Lower Ladakh
>>> ...www.butbn.cas.cz › ladakh › pdf › Klimes_Dickore
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&ved=2ahUKEwjciZabxNjoAhVTyDgGHQChBHwQFjAQegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.butbn.cas.cz%2Fladakh%2Fpdf%2FKlimes_Dickore.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2EbmadUmKutM7-fOUiVgLr>
>>>
>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin <https://www.gbif.org/species/3933195>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:32 PM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, May be possible.
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Tabish <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:22 PM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>, efloraindia <
>>> [email protected]>, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> It does look like
>>> * Malva verticillata *
>>>  See the images and herbaria here:
>>>
>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:561971-1
>>>  It is found in the Himalayas too. Has fascicled pinkish flowers.
>>>   Tabish
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:40 PM
>>> To: Tabish <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, efloraindia <
>>> [email protected]>, [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> No Tabish, latest suggestion is Malva pamiroalaica Iljin . Please check
>>> the mail.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>> --
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Tabish <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:00 AM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, efloraindia <
>>> [email protected]>, [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Saroj,
>>>    I did go through the mail. However, I could not find how Malva
>>> verticillata has been ruled out. All I could see is this:
>>>  "Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded
>>> in the 19th Century in Hunza.
>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes  do not mention this."
>>>   Is there something more that I missed?
>>>   Tabish
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:13 PM
>>> To: Tabish <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, efloraindia <
>>> [email protected]>, [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> M. verticillata images in the net showing erect plants whereas this one
>>> is something like runner
>>> which looks matching  with Malva pamiroalaica Iljin  and also mentioned
>>> recorded in Ladakh
>>> according link above .
>>> This is my opinion!
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:56 PM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Tabish <[email protected]>, efloraindia <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> I find Malva verticillata
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-verticillata>
>>>  to
>>> be different as per images herein.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>

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