It looks close to both species suggested here. So need to measure and observe the specimen floral and other features to confirm.
Regards, Bijay On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 6:58:55 PM UTC+5:45 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: > Some expert from China has validated as Synotis triligulata ! > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:41 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I guess you are correct Mr. Garg ! >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:28 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On further checking, it is seen that it should be Synotis vagans as per >>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5402670> >>> specimens as below: >>> >>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1444280101838QL5q6KNKRT9cqNPQ >>> >>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fsweetgum.nybg.org%2Fimages3%2F551%2F958%2F00259565.jpg >>> https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/575084270 >>> >>> For *Synotis vagans*, Flora of Bhutan says: >>> Similar to *S. triligulata *but glabrous; leaves narrowly ovate. 7- 12 >>> >< 2.5- 4cm. rounded at base. denticulate:* petioles up to 10mm*: *capitula >>> in axillary corymbs*; phyllaries 8. glabrous;* ray flowers c 4-5*. >>> corolla tube 3mm; ligules 4 >< 1.5mm: *disc flowers 5——6: *pappus 7mm. >>> >>> For *Synotis triligulata* (Buchanan-Hamilton ex D. Don) C. Jeffrey & Y. >>> L. Chen, Flora of China >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097806> >>> says, *petiole 1-2 cm,* c*apitula minutely radiate,* *very numerous, >>> arranged in lax axillary and terminal rounded compound corymbs;* Ray >>> florets 3 or 4; Disk florets 3 or 4; >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 09:59, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> But Flora of China >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097809> >>>> says Capitula minutely radiate, numerous, arranged in terminal compound >>>> corymbs; Ray floret 1; Disk florets 2 or 3; >>>> So it is not *Senecio acuminata *also. >>>> >>>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 09:17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Keys from Flora of Bhutan at Synotis >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/senecioneae/synotis> >>>>> leads >>>>> me to *Senecio acuminata *as per specimen >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvMjQxLzQwMS82MDg1NzAuanBn> >>>>> >>>>> in GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5402683>, FoC >>>>> illustration >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121714&flora_id=2> >>>>> Flora >>>>> of China >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097809> >>>>> Checklist of Nepal >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242348150> >>>>> >>>>> Looks different from closer species *Synotis tetrantha* >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097791> as >>>>> per FoC illustration >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121703&flora_id=2> >>>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5402680> Checklist of Nepal >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242425527> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:59, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I checked POWO, GBIF and CoL. They are not showing distribution in >>>>>> Nepal >>>>>> but only S.himalayas ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 6:12 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How can you be so sure with so many species in Checklist of Nepal >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/browse.aspx?flora_id=110&start_taxon_id=130085> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:51, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unless it is new to Nepal! >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 6:04 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As per keys in Reinstatement of the Sino-Himalayan species >>>>>>>>> Senecio pentanthus (Asteraceae, Senecioneae) >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiazaSI9pHoAhUPH7cAHQXJB-wQFjAAegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biotaxa.org%2FPhytotaxa%2Farticle%2Fview%2Fphytotaxa.292.3.5&usg=AOvVaw1el5fQTYFQ1lChWKhAcGB2> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MING TANG, CHEN REN & QIN-ER YANG - Phytotaxa 292 (3): 253–261 >>>>>>>>> (2017), Capitula >>>>>>>>> minutely radiate in Synotis triligulata. But it is having quite >>>>>>>>> big ray florets (Capitula radiate). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 14:56, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have crossed checked with Dr. Maan Rokaya also and he has >>>>>>>>>> validated as >>>>>>>>>> Senecio triligulata i.e., Synotis triligulata. >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:04 pm, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gargji, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Distribution to Nepal is not mentioned in any links except in >>>>>>>>>>> the enclosed journal and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> corolla yellowish-white in this sp. whereas in my sp. it is >>>>>>>>>>> purely dark yellow. As such, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I could not decide. >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:25 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>>> It is not *Synotis triligulata *as per keys in MS March, >>>>>>>>>>>> 2020/02 Senecio sp. for ID >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/O0oIQ_NJ04A> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> from Reinstatement of the Sino-Himalayan species Senecio >>>>>>>>>>>> pentanthus (Asteraceae, Senecioneae) >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiazaSI9pHoAhUPH7cAHQXJB-wQFjAAegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biotaxa.org%2FPhytotaxa%2Farticle%2Fview%2Fphytotaxa.292.3.5&usg=AOvVaw1el5fQTYFQ1lChWKhAcGB2> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MING TANG, CHEN REN & QIN-ER YANG - Phytotaxa 292 (3): 253–261 >>>>>>>>>>>> (2017) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 13:34 >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Synotis triligulata (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) >>>>>>>>>>>> C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen >>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Godawari >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 8 January 2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 2065m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syn: Senecio triligulatus Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>>> e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>>>>>>> (largest >>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>>> 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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