Thanks a lot for id assistance

On Sat, 30 Jan 2021, 16:59 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes Mr. Garg !
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 4:10 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think it may be Rubus calycinoides
>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2019/12/14/rubus-calycinoides/> as per images
>> and details herein and as per keys in Online Flora of Nepal.
>> 16a Pedicels 2–15 mm long. Sepals 11–15 mm long, *margins lacerate,*
>> apex acute or sometimes lacerate   R. calycinoides
>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora?wildcard=2799>
>>   b Pedicels 2–7 mm long. Sepals 8–12 mm long, *margins entire, *apex
>> acute to acuminate   R. rugosus
>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora?wildcard=15625>
>> *I think the keys above clearly do not bring out the difference properly *as
>> neither margins are not entire in R.rugosus nor the apexes is as mentioned
>> above in both the species.
>> I checked in GBIF also. Pl. see specimens from India and Nepal for
>> R.calycinoides
>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=NP&country=IN&taxon_key=8426571>
>> and R. rugosus
>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=NP&taxon_key=8229216>
>>
>> Flora of Bhutan gives the following keys:
>> Leaves 10—20cm long and broad, *lobes acute;* stipules 1.5-2cm,
>> *subpersistent*; pedicels 8- 15mm; calyx lobes 10-12mm, often toothed
>> ..... 16. *R. calycinoides*
>> Leaves 8-12X6-10cm, *lobes rounded or subacute*; stipules 1-1.5cm, *early
>> caducous*; pedicels 2-7mm; calyx lobes 8—9mm, entire or minutely toothed
>> at apex ...................................... .. 17. *R. rugosus*
>>
>> I think *lobes acute in R.calycinoides* and *rounded or subacute in R.
>> rugosus*, may be one of the major differences.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 at 13:09
>> Subject: Fwd: Rubus 020815SP1-2
>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Subhasis <[email protected]>, Ritesh Choudhary <
>> [email protected]>, Bimal Sar kar <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>
>> Looks like Rubus moluccanus L.
>> Regards,
>> Ritesh
>>
>> This white flowered Rubus seems to be R. floribunda - from Sankardas
>> Chakrabarti
>>
>> To me it seems to be Rubus moluccanus.- from Bimal ji.
>>
>>  As per GRIN <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?411377>
>> *Rubus* *floribundus* Kunth, does not occur in India in wild.
>>
>> efi page on Rubus moluccanus
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rosaceae/rubus/rubus-moluccanus>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Subhasis Panda <[email protected]>
>> Date: 6 September 2015 at 11:01
>> Subject: Rubus 020815SP1-2
>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <
>> [email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Dear all
>> I need species level identification of following 3 images of Rubus sp.
>>
>> Date: 02/08/15
>> Locality: Jalapahar Darjeeling
>> Altitude: 7000 ft (GPS)
>>
>> Habit: Shrub, scandent
>>
>> S. Panda
>> darjeeling
>>
>>
>>
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