On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 13:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, Tabish ji,
> Needs correction in FOI.
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 12:45, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Illustrations in general in Flora of Pakistan are not properly made
>> compared to those at Flora of China.
>> Flora of Pakistan
>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242421009>
>> says about *Campanula argyrotricha* Wall. ex DC. "Not a common plant in
>> our area; more so near Simla and areas around it".
>> In herbarium specimens in GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/7568665>-
>> specimen 1 and specimen 2 (only two specimens available being rare) and I
>> see opened corolla scantily in one specimen and I think it matches with
>> Prashant ji's image.
>> Pl. see the correct image as attached from authentic flora from
>> Uttarakhand (by BSI people, Dr P.K. Pusalkar & D.K. Singh) depicting and
>> describing C. argyrotricha
>>
>> On the other hand, *Campanula cashmeriana* Royle is widely distributed
>> and highly variable as per Flora of Pakistan
>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250077297>
>> and shape of the corolla looks different as per images at Campanula
>> cashmeriana <https://efloraofindia.com/2014/07/14/campanula-cashmeriana/> and
>> matches as per GBIF
>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=5410109>-
>> specimens 1
>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1537382%3AMICH-V-1537382%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>
>> and specimen 2
>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm323a1d921-65e9-45f5-b533-d2c728a04e29>
>>
>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 22:15, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I must add that flowers of the herbaria of cultivated C.cashmeriana (at
>>> GBIF) look quite different from the sketch at FoP, flowers of the herbaria
>>> collected from Himalaya (at GBIF) and also from the flowers at the
>>> herbarium image at POWO. So I am a bit puzzled.
>>>    Tabish
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 9:42 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Many images of C.cashmeriana in net and also images from efi looks
>>>> different.
>>>> I guess  efi image needs a review.
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 9:44 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>>>    I have had a close look at *Campanula argyrotricha*. if you look
>>>>> at the description and drawing at FoP
>>>>>   http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242421009
>>>>> *Plants up to 20 cm tall, stems numerous, procumbent, thread-like,
>>>>> pubescent. Leaves oval to ovate, up to 1 cm long, 5 mm broad, margin
>>>>> toothed to wavy, surfaces white pubescent. Pedicel c. 0.5 mm long. Calyx
>>>>> teeth about half the length of the corolla. Corolla blue, hairy outside;
>>>>> style exserted. Capsule rounded at the base.*
>>>>>  The highlighted features don't agree with Prashant's flowers. In
>>>>> Prashant's flowers the sepals are smaller, and the style is not protruding
>>>>> out. In *Campanula argyrotricha* the sepals are indeed half as long
>>>>> as the flowers, as can be seen in the attached herbarium images (from
>>>>> GBIF).
>>>>>   I have also attached the drawing of *Campanula cashmeriana* from
>>>>> FoP and a herbarium image from GBIF. Looking at these it appears that many
>>>>> images of *Campanula cashmeriana* that appear in Google search may
>>>>> not be correct. Prashant's flowers do appear to agree with the sketch of 
>>>>> *Campanula
>>>>> cashmeriana* at FoP.
>>>>>    Best wishes
>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:12 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>>>>> I think images of Campanula cashmeriana in FOI
>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Kashmir%20Bellflower.html>
>>>>>> should be of Campanula argyrotricha
>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2013/09/05/campanula-argyrotricha/> as
>>>>>> per images and details herein.
>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji, for pointing out.
>>>>>> Pl. correct.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>
>
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> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
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