Yes Guracharan ji, I agree with your thoughts. I have always got confused between the two species ! Regards. Dinesh
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 2:15 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Distributed as Barleria prionitis ? > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-prionitis-1> > Thanks Dinesh ji for prompting me for re-look. When in doubt I always fall > back on FBI. Though two species B. prionitis and B. cuspidata look similar, > the deciding factor is leaves subsessile narrowly oblong lanceolate, not > more than 8 mm broad in B. cuspidata; distinctly petiolate (petiole 12-25 > mm long), elliptic, 2-4 cm broad; Also bracts of B. cuspidata are narrowly > lanceolate smaller; larger, foliaceous and elliptic in B. prionitis. This > clearly identifies my plant with B. prionitis. They are corroborated by > images at Flowers of India. > This image of same population should help further. > Group discussion at > Fwd: [efloraofindia:218193] Acanthaceae Fortnight: Barleria prionitis from > Delhi-GSMAR07/08- 4 (google.com) > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/wjKe3D3PgOA> > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: JM Garg <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+5:30 > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:218193] Acanthaceae Fortnight: Barleria > prionitis from Delhi-GSMAR07/08- 4 > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > Cc: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke < > [email protected]> > > > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > "Gurcharan ji, these are just my thoughts ... > Barleria-prionitis-flower-herbal-gard-Delhi-2 and > Barleria-prionitis-Ridge-Delhi-1 seem typically *B. cuspidata* - the > upper lip with the 4 lobes recurved to a great extent, with their lobes not > ending in a point, they are blunt at their ends, and the lower lip aloof > from the upper. > In cuspidata, the corolla tube is bent (relatively more than prionitis). > There are thorns at all nodes. > > Not sure about Barleria-prionitis-Herbal-gdn-Delhi-3. > In case of *B. prionitis*, all the lobes seem to be equal and > overlapping, the lower lip tends to overlap the adjacent upper lobes, all > of them end to a point. Upper and lower lobes appear to recurve to equal > extent. The corolla tube is not as bent as in *B. cuspidata ...* the tube > looks fairly straight. > Let us wait for validations; my observations are not scientific. > I hope Shrikant ji helps here. > Regards. > Dinesh" > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > Date: 16 March 2015 at 22:33 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:218193] Acanthaceae Fortnight: Barleria > prionitis from Delhi-GSMAR07/08 > To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < > [email protected]> > > > A 4th one from Ridge in March > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Third population from Ridge 16 November >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Here is second from Herbal Garden clicked in April >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Dinesh ji >>>> I have three distinct populations in my collection, but not able to fix >>>> them. This is the first one from Herbal Garden photographed on November 10. >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please ignore the truncated line * looks to be *B. cuspidata *.* >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Gurcharan ji, these are just my thoughts ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Barleria-prionitis-flower-herbal-gard-Delhi-2 and >>>>>> Barleria-prionitis-Ridge-Delhi-1 seem typically *B. cuspidata* - the >>>>>> upper lip with the 4 lobes recurved to a great extent, with their lobes >>>>>> not >>>>>> ending in a point, they are blunt at their ends, and the lower lip aloof >>>>>> from the upper. >>>>>> >>>>>> In cuspidata, the corolla tube is bent (relatively more than >>>>>> prionitis). There are thorns at all nodes. >>>>>> >>>>>> looks to be *B. cuspidata.* >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure about Barleria-prionitis-Herbal-gdn-Delhi-3. >>>>>> >>>>>> In case of *B. prionitis*, all the lobes seem to be equal and >>>>>> overlapping, the lower lip tends to overlap the adjacent upper lobes, all >>>>>> of them end to a point. Upper and lower lobes appear to recurve to equal >>>>>> extent. The corolla tube is not as bent as in *B. cuspidata ...* the >>>>>> tube looks fairly straight. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let us wait for validations; my observations are not scientific. >>>>>> I hope Shrikant ji helps here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Barleria prionitis* L., Sp. Pl. 636 1753. >>>>>>> syn: *Barleria* *coriacea* Oberm.; *Barleria* *echinata* St.-Lag.; >>>>>>> *Barleria* *spicata* Roxb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A bushy prickly shrub with 3-4 spines in leaf axils; leaves >>>>>>> elliptic-ovate, up to 10 cm long, tapering at ends; flowers >>>>>>> orange-yellow >>>>>>> in terminal spikes; calyx spine-tipped. Photographed from Herbal garden, >>>>>>> Rajouri Garden and Ridge in Delhi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Common name: porcupine-flower >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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