Thank you, SIr.
Best regards,
Surajit Koley

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 16:46, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Surajit ji.
> I go with you as per Flora Fauna Web
> <https://florafaunaweb.nparks.gov.sg/special-pages/plant-detail.aspx?id=6498>
>   Useful Tropical Plants
> <http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Jasminum+elongatum>
> Factsheet
> <http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Jasminum_elongatum.htm>
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 22:18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Surajit ji.
>> Hi, Karuna ji,
>> May I request you to pl. post high resolution images to properly check
>> different characters.
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 21:45, surajit koley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I admit, Garg Sir, I am very confused with this species of *Jasmium*.
>>> First, I made a grave mistake by suggesting *J. laurifolium*,
>>> overlooking the leaf character. Then I was confused again to decide if the
>>> inflorescence should be treated as an axillary or a terminal one!
>>>
>>> Later, you suggested *J. listeri* and referred to two
>>> herbarium collections at GBIF. But, the protologue of *J. listeri* tells
>>> me -
>>>
>>>    1. leaf base cuneate (* doesn't match with pic no. "*
>>>    6._Unknown_sp._-_Leaf_-IMG_1107")
>>>    2. cymes rather lax (*doesn't match with pic no.*  "5, 7 & 8")
>>>    3. corolla white, lobes six (again  *doesn't match with pic no.*  "7
>>>    & 8")
>>>
>>> So, I am hesitant to accept.
>>>
>>> There is a paper on *Jasminum* from Arunachal Pradesh -
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318362029_Jasminum_pentaneurum_Hand-Mazz_Oleaceae_An_Addition_to_Indian_Flora_from_Arunachal_Pradesh_North_East_India
>>>
>>> The KEY in the above paper   goes thus :-
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *1a Leaves all simple -> 2 -> 2a Leaves with primary veins
>>>    pinnately arranged -> 3 -> 3a Inflorescence open, lax, 1-5 flowered -> 4*
>>>    (*J. listeri is placed under it)*
>>>    2. *  1a Leaves all simple -> 2 -> 2a Leaves with primary veins
>>>    pinnately arranged -> 3 ->  3b  Inflorescence dense, many flowered -> 8
>>>    thereafter 8a & 8b to 9 to 9b* (here lies *J. elongatum*) !
>>>
>>> Now, you decide, and I will accept it.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Surajit Koley
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 12:57, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji.
>>>> I found the posted plant to be different from *Jasminum elongatum *as
>>>> per keys and as per GBIF specimens from India
>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=3172264>-
>>>> specimen 1
>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvMjg0Lzg0NC8zNjgyOC5qcGc%3D>
>>>> and specimen 2
>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Foxalis.br.fgov.be%2Fimages%2FBR0%2F000%2F005%2F290%2F567%2FBR0000005290567.jpg>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 at 21:40, surajit koley <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also check the probability of *Jasminum elongatum* -
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=566251
>>>>>    2.
>>>>>    
>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:609469-1
>>>>>
>>>>> *The point I miss in these attached pictures is absence of leafy
>>>>> bracts subtending the capitate cymes. *
>>>>> However, a blog is there covering certain identifications -
>>>>> https://plantsnamebubai.home.blog/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 19:09, surajit koley <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Yes, Garg Sir, I was totally wrong.*
>>>>>> I am not sure as well, that if it can be *J. listeri* ..... here is
>>>>>> the protologue -
>>>>>> https://archive.org/details/recordsofbotanic11893bota/page/349/mode/1up?view=theater
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 17:26, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may be Jasminum listeri as per keys and species available in
>>>>>>> Mizoram in MS Nov, 2020/05 Jaminum sp. for Id
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/EU9gTIzmHsI> and as
>>>>>>> per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3683543>-
>>>>>>> specimen 1
>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvNzU1LzIxMS85MDQxMjMuanBn>,
>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvNzU1LzIxMi85MDQxOTIuanBn>
>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>> POWO
>>>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:609598-1>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 19:03, surajit koley <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Garg Sir,
>>>>>>>> It's quite possible that I am altogether wrong.
>>>>>>>> But....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - don't you think that before making any suggestion I may
>>>>>>>>    already have visited the efI's page?
>>>>>>>>    - Have you noticed that all uploads in your referred efI page
>>>>>>>>    come from cultivated individuals?
>>>>>>>>    - Don't you think that wild one may vary a little, or even to
>>>>>>>>    some extent?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Nothing said above ever implies that this species is J.
>>>>>>>> laurifolium.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 15:54, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji,
>>>>>>>>> Looks different from images at *Jasminum laurifolium* var.
>>>>>>>>> *laurifolium*
>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-laurifolium>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 20:04, surajit koley <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Assuming leaves are opposite, I would suggest *Jasminum
>>>>>>>>>> laurifolium* Roxb. ex Hornem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID
>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed as Jasminum sp.- Kamrup district, Assam
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-species/kamrup-district>
>>>>>>>>>>> Group discussion at
>>>>>>>>>>> ID pls : Unknown shrub from Kamrup district, Assam (google.com)
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/oVMqLDVBrZk>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, December 31, 2012 at 7:43:41 AM UTC+5:30
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: ID pls : Unknown shrub from Kamrup district, Assam
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>> Attached images are unknown shrubs. One of the interesting
>>>>>>>>>>> feature of this sp. I found is that some branches of this plant are
>>>>>>>>>>> straggling(IMG_1124 & IMG_1125) and some are twiner(IMG_1126, 
>>>>>>>>>>> IMG_1127),
>>>>>>>>>>> both bearing flowers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date :21.12.2012
>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Kamrup district
>>>>>>>>>>> Family : Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Genus & species : Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Grows wild on roky slopes.
>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Shrubs
>>>>>>>>>>> Flower : Large, white with orange coloured corolla tube
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Karuna Kanta Das
>>>>>>>>>>> Guwahati 781012
>>>>>>>>>>>
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