I tried. Unable to fit by adding these parameters. On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 12:01, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes Saroj ji R. calycinoides Hayata is a common ground cover undershrub > now known as R. rolfei > R. calycinoides Kuntze and R. rugosus are both taller plants with larger > leaves occurring in E. Himalayas. Here is key from Flora of Bhutan which I > have already shared > Leaves 10—20cm long and broad, *lobes acute;* stipules 1.5-2cm, > *subpersistent*; pedicels 8- 15mm; calyx lobes 10-12mm, often toothed ….. > 16. *R. calycinoides* > Leaves 8-12X6-10cm, *lobes rounded or subacute*; stipules 1-1.5cm, *early > caducous*; pedicels 2-7mm; calyx lobes 8—9mm, entire or minutely toothed > at apex … 17. *R. rugosus* > If we add to this key features from Flora of Nepal: > 1. Habit being Erect and arching compared to climbing and scandent of > * R.rugosa* > 2. Stipule being lacerate > 3. Fruiting period being Oct.- Dec. compared to July to Sept. of > *R.rugosa* > A combined key would be as under > > *R. calycinoides*: Habit erect to arching, Leaves 10—20cm long and > broad, lobes acute*;* stipules 1.5-2cm, lacerate, subpersistent; pedicels > 8- 15mm; calyx lobes 10-12mm, often toothed, fruiting period Oct-Dec. > *R. rugosus: * Habit climbing to scandent, Leaves 8-12X6-10cm, lobes > rounded or subacute; stipules 1-1.5cm, early caducous; pedicels 2-7mm; > calyx lobes 8—9mm, entire or minutely toothed at apex, fruiting period > July-September. > > The specimens of these two species in our database need a relook. > > > > On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 11:01:42 AM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: > >> I guess there is some confusion between Rubus calycinoides Hayata >> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/4TLHJ> and Rubus >> calycinoides Kuntze <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/4TJP4> ! >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:44 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Saroj ji R. calycinoides now known as R. rolfei as I wrote earlier is a >>> ground cover creeping plant. This should be R. rugosus. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 1:52 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Gurucharan Sir, >>>> Please look at the keays in my earlier post of this mail and >>>> your opinion. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 2:43 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess it is different from R. calycinoides ! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 2:29 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Got it from our own website, thanks Garg ji >>>>>> Flora of Bhutan gives the following keys: >>>>>> Leaves 10—20cm long and broad, *lobes acute;* stipules 1.5-2cm, >>>>>> *subpersistent*; pedicels 8- 15mm; calyx lobes 10-12mm, often >>>>>> toothed ….. 16. *R. calycinoides* >>>>>> Leaves 8-12X6-10cm, *lobes rounded or subacute*; stipules 1-1.5cm, *early >>>>>> caducous*; pedicels 2-7mm; calyx lobes 8—9mm, entire or minutely >>>>>> toothed at apex … 17. *R. rugosus* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 2:06 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be interesting to know Key and description of two species >>>>>>> R. calycinoides Kuntze and R. rugosus Sm. because R. calycinoides Hayata >>>>>>> and Koidz. (considered now as synonym of R. rolfei S. Vidal, along with >>>>>>> R. >>>>>>> pentalobus) is a very popular ground cover plant and amply described in >>>>>>> numerous garden websites. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 5:02 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes Mr. Garg ! >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:31 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think it may be Rubus calycinoides >>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2019/12/14/rubus-calycinoides/> as per >>>>>>>>> images and details herein and as per keys in Online Flora of Nepal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 at 20:09 >>>>>>>>> Subject: Rubus rugosus Sm. >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Location: Nagarkot, Nepal >>>>>>>>> Date: 12 December 2017 >>>>>>>>> Altitude: 6800 ft. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>> the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/lZoDPDf3trs/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytTGSmsmNBPzHT3nb0ObxhC0sxb4iMuwN2eTv%2Bkwg3Jy4A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytTGSmsmNBPzHT3nb0ObxhC0sxb4iMuwN2eTv%2Bkwg3Jy4A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpVi9VYh7Z2UY79nsvGeND8d-R7N3O%3DOxixrDY2DRg79Aw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpVi9VYh7Z2UY79nsvGeND8d-R7N3O%3DOxixrDY2DRg79Aw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/95aaad09-89df-4ee3-a76b-b000cf6202c3n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/95aaad09-89df-4ee3-a76b-b000cf6202c3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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