Looking at the long leaflets which are toothed only in the upper part, it looks like* Leea alata* Edgew. to me. *Leea rubra* Royle <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:68348-1> is a synonym. I hope people are not mixing it up with* Leea rubra* Blume ex Spreng., which is a different plant. Tabish On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:58:55 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:
> Distribution is not the problem area, Sir ji, distribution records depend > upon reporting of the species from the area and it takes time to update the > distribution list, I think. > Btw, POWO shows the "green area all over the India" but lists - Native to: > Assam, China South-Central, India, Thailand - > http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:68363-1 > > But, again I say, distribution is not the concerned area. *I would be no > less happy if it turns out to be L. setuligera.* > *I am here not to identify a species.* > *I am here to learn what could be the id of a species,* > > *Regards* > > *surajit* > > life is short > time is running out > don't try to know everything > utilize what you already know > > > On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 21:34, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> OK Mr. Garg ! By the way POWO showing distribution ! >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:29 PM surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Sir, for the information. >>> >>> Regards, >>> surajit >>> >>> life is short >>> time is running out >>> don't try to know everything >>> utilize what you already know >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 20:10, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Only one Varun, I am think. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J. M. Garg >>>> >>>> On Mon, 17 May, 2021, 8:07 pm surajit koley, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess you are right Mr. Garg Sir ji. >>>>> Do we have more than one Varun ji, in the forum? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> life is short >>>>> time is running out >>>>> don't try to know everything >>>>> utilize what you already know >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 18:35, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wait, Saroj ji, >>>>>> Discussions are yet not over. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 17 May, 2021, 6:24 pm Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Tabish, >>>>>>> Forwarding for inclusion in FoI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarded Conversation >>>>>>> Subject: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID >>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Location: Teesta, Kalimpong, India >>>>>>> Date: 24 May 2017 >>>>>>> Altitude: 4000 ft. >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:10 PM >>>>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leea? Or Vitaceae? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:47 PM >>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng. ??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com.np/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW-orMy6nUAhXHM48KHVb9DL0QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photomazza.com%2F%3FLeea-rubra&psig=AFQjCNFp8YYRePDZuqHMf8vWaOOdCdwijQ&ust=1496851241685124 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leea robusta >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:35 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leea rubra >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com.np/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW-orMy6nUAhXHM48KHVb9DL0QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photomazza.com%2F%3FLeea-rubra&psig=AFQjCNFp8YYRePDZuqHMf8vWaOOdCdwijQ&ust=1496851241685124> >>>>>>> Blume >>>>>>> ex Spreng. >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com.np/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW-orMy6nUAhXHM48KHVb9DL0QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photomazza.com%2F%3FLeea-rubra&psig=AFQjCNFp8YYRePDZuqHMf8vWaOOdCdwijQ&ust=1496851241685124> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ??? or Leea robusta - from Saroj >>>>>>> ji >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>> free >>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 5:40 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Mahadeswara ji. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 15 June 2017 at 17:22 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID >>>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is *Leea rubra* Blume ex Spreng. for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:09 PM >>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, M Swamy < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Swamy ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:47 AM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A reply: >>>>>>> "This should be *Leea alata* Edgew. >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> Varun" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Varun ji. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:28 PM >>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, M Swamy < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could not decide. Waiting for final validation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 3:33 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: M Swamy <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leea rubra >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com.np/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW-orMy6nUAhXHM48KHVb9DL0QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photomazza.com%2F%3FLeea-rubra&psig=AFQjCNFp8YYRePDZuqHMf8vWaOOdCdwijQ&ust=1496851241685124> >>>>>>> Blume >>>>>>> ex Spreng. >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com.np/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW-orMy6nUAhXHM48KHVb9DL0QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photomazza.com%2F%3FLeea-rubra&psig=AFQjCNFp8YYRePDZuqHMf8vWaOOdCdwijQ&ust=1496851241685124> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ??? or Leea robusta - from Saroj ji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is *Leea rubra* Blume ex Spreng. for me.- from Mahadeswara ji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This should be *Leea alata* Edgew. >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> Varun >>>>>>> I could not decide. Waiting for final validation. >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 6 June 2017 at 16:07 >>>>>>> Subject: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 4:58 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]>, M Swamy <[email protected]>, Saroj >>>>>>> Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Jatindra Sarma >>>>>>> Date: 6 July 2017 at 16:33 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID >>>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>> I think the image is of Leea rubra. >>>>>>> J SARMA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 8:53 PM >>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, >>>>>>> M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Again confusion! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:51 AM >>>>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, M Swamy < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can decide on final I'd. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:01 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I found the keys between these two species at Forest Plants of >>>>>>> Eastern India >>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=RQ-tItJSi60C&pg=PA181&dq=Leea+macrophylla+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bNkeUrHaLdDtrQeuh4DQBA&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Leea%20macrophylla%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>>>> By Amal Bhusan Chaudhuri (1993). >>>>>>> As petioles are not winged, it can not be Leea alata. I also feel it >>>>>>> is close to images at Leea guineense >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/leea/leea-coccinea> >>>>>>> (syn. >>>>>>> *Leea coccinea* Planch.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, surajitkoley < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As per 08-05-2021 : S-KOLEY : Leea diversity in India >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/UfbKrMCvEBw> from >>>>>>> Surajit ji: >>>>>>> "Saroj ji's upload from Kalimpong - >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Qu7AqOcoHuk/m/iT4YyczCAQAJ >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> either *L. rubra* Bl. Ex Spreng or *L. guineensis* G. Don. >>>>>>> Unfortunately, the paper I am following doesn't provide >>>>>>> description of both species. And* I have no clear idea how to >>>>>>> differentiate them* without 'KEY-III" and stipule picture. Yet, *I >>>>>>> agree with the established id, as L. guineensis G. Don, *because - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. inside of petal is creamy-yellow >>>>>>> 2. long acuminate tips of the leaflets and nerves >>>>>>> 3. apparently longer staminodial tube >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 at 15:17 >>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: M Swamy <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:12 PM >>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, surajitkoley < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess you are right Mr. Garg ! >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:38 PM >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, surajitkoley < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As per Flora of India this should be *Leea setuligera* C. B. Clarke >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Leea guineensis* G. Don: staminodial tube 2-3mm long >>>>>>> *L. rubra* Spreng. ex Blume and *L. setuligera* C. B. Clarke: >>>>>>> staminodial tube less than 2mm >>>>>>> *L. setuligera* C. B. Clarke: Flowers turn creamish yellow on >>>>>>> maturity, leaf margins closely serrate and stiff bristles on the upper >>>>>>> surface of the leaflets between each pair of the nerves (as in leaf >>>>>>> photograph while zooming). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> Varun >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:37 PM >>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, Varun Sharma < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, surajitkoley < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Varun Ji ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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