Many many thanks for going deep into the subject to find it's ID. Wait for your final ID.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 7:58:48 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: > I have this one in my mind and *I will inform when I would be ready to > give up!* > Meanwhile another guess > https://www.kew.org/science/tropamerica/neotropikey/families/Symplocaceae.htm > (please > scroll down to bottom to see the last picture). > But the problem is *fruits are different* in *Symplocos*, at best I could > do is - > https://www.morphosource.org/concern/biological_specimens/000S24715?locale=en > > > Thank you > With regards > surajit koley > > > On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 at 12:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> Might be Burseraceae- from Paradesi ji >> >> Thanks a lot Anjaneyulu ji. I was thinking it could be a *Commiphora* >> species (Burseraceae) . Meanwhile you suggested the family. I will try >> to work on it.- from Mahadeswara ji >> >> Sending h/w two more photos received. - from Mahadeswara ji >> Thanks, Paradesi ji and Mahadeswara ji. >> On checking the family in efloraofindia, I could track it upto *Commiphora >> wightii* (Arn.) Bhandari >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/b/burseraceae/commiphora/commiphora-wightii> >> as >> per images and details herein and as per >> >> https://plantslive.in/product/buy-commiphora-berryi-usuvaindian-balm-of-gilead-plant-online-india/ >> http://bonsaiclubofahmedabad.com/sales_detail.php?sales_id=115 >> >> https://www.desertcart.in/products/72901437-guggul-myrrh-tree-commiphora-wightii-exotic-caudex-mukul-bonsai-seed-5-seeds >> https://laidbackgardener.blog/2017/12/22/the-two-plants-of-the-magi/ >> >> https://www.flipkart.com/chamunda-greens-commiphora-wightii/p/itm33117aadfa00a >> ICAR >> <https://iinrg.icar.gov.in/library/majorgumresin/mobile/index.html#p=101> >> >> But flowers look different as per >> Images at *Commiphora wightii* (Arn.) Bhandari >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/b/burseraceae/commiphora/commiphora-wightii> >> http://gardentia.sitewalla.com/2013/09/16/guggul/ >> Observations on Flowering and Fruiting in Commiphora wightii (Arnott) >> Bhandari >> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263090118_Observations_on_Flowering_and_Fruiting_in_Commiphora_wightii_Arnott_Bhandari> >> >> Could not find a match with other species listed in Flora of Peninsular >> India <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/search.php> (namely >> Commiphora >> berryi >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2208&cat=7> >> , Commiphora caudata var. caudata >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2209&cat=7> >> , Commiphora caudata var. pubescens >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2210&cat=7> >> , Commiphora gileadensis >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2211&cat=7> >> , Commiphora myrrha >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2212&cat=7> >> , Commiphora stocksiana >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2213&cat=7>, >> Commiphora >> wightii)- from me >> I was following this thread. I want to know a thing or two about bonsai :- >> >> 1. does their stunted growth deform them? >> 2. do leaves retain their characters? >> 3. flowers and fruits should remain as in normal species, since they >> are sexual organs - isn't it? >> >> Flowers in this species seem to have staminal tube - so why not check for >> meliaceae member, for example - >> https://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_SP512&res=640 ? >> >> Thank you >> With regards >> >> surajit koley >> Thanks for taking interest in this thread to unravel its identity >> .Regarding your queries, >> 1. No. the stunted growth does not deform the plant but it manifest in >> miniature forms. >> 2. Sure. >> 3. Yes they remain in normal form. >> Meanwhile I am asking the sender of these photographs to allow the plant >> to grow on its own without clipping the plant parts. Let us see what >> happens. >> Regards, >> >> Dr.Mahadeswara Swamy >> However, *your answers no. 1 & 2 imply - this species wouldn't be a >> Meliaceae member*, because they mostly have pinnate leaves with entire >> margins of leaflets. >> *Please do not waste your time on Meliaceae*. >> Thank you >> With regards >> >> surajit koley >> I have another suggestion, if I may - please think of it before any >> search or allotting your time to it - >> What about the probability of a rutaceae member? (since I think some of >> those flowers also look similar, and they are used for bonsai, and the >> flower colour in your species is actually greenish-white, not yellow.! And >> also take care of those green-turning-orange fruit in your pic >> no MG-20210518-WA0018). >> >> I still cannot get rid of meliaceae though! Just check some fruit pics - >> >> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munronia >> - >> >> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:26792-1 >> >> The problem area is crenate leaf (or leaflets?) >> >> Thank you >> With regards >> >> surajit koley >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: M Swamy <[email protected]> >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 at 17:42 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:386271] Swamy/New series/ID/12 - ID of the Plant, >> Chennai. >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Dear friends, >> Kindly Id the plant photographs received from a friend in Chennai. >> Photographed yesterday. 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