Surajit Ji,
Thanks for showing interest in my earlier post.
Frankly, I will never have the patience to go so deeply and try to find the
id.
Great observations from you.
When I revisit the place, I will take more close ups for sure.
Recently, there was mass blooming of Lilies after the first rains near this
spot on the mountain slopes which I missed being out of town.
Thank you.
Regards,
Aarti

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM surajit koley <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I am truly indebted to you, Madam ji, for this upload (and many other as
> well).
> Last night while I was placing my wise (!!!) comments in several *Agave 
> *threads
> I kept thinking that "nothing is getting cleared." I kept asking myself, 
> *"which
> Agave has/have been naturalized in our country?"*
>
> I am still reading and studying trying to get a hold on *Agave* riddle.
> For gathering information I visited "lucidcentral, KEW, Flora of China,
> Pakistan and North America sites". I couldn't find any other resources.
> What I could gather I surmise below :-
>
>    1. *A. angustifolia* (*A. wightii*) = naturalized in SUb Himalayan
>    Tract and Outer Himalaya (FoP
>    <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242420225>)
>    2. *A. sisalana* = nowhere naturalized
>    3. *A. americana* = naturalized in India and Pakistan, with some
>    uncertainty, because it immediately below notes otherwise (FoP
>    <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200028030>);
>    in south China (FoC)). Lucidcentral site mentioned South China, but not
>    India
>    4. *A. vera-cruz* = nowhere, except in the book "Botany of Bihar &
>    Orissa", I could find that it is naturalized
>    5. *A. cantula* = naturalized in Indo-Pakistan (FoP
>    <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200028032>),
>    region of Australia (Lucidcentral
>    <https://keys.lucidcentral.org/demo/js_player/sew2/text/agave_cantula.htm>
>    )
>
> So, this species is either no.3 or no.5 (and maybe no.4 to some extent).
>
> In the attached pictures, cropped from your original plate, you will
> notice that the prickles are = some straight and some pointing upwards = i*f
> you apply FoP KEY,
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=100796#KEY-1-4>this
> species would be A. cantula Roxb.*
>
> I thank you once again for your generous help.
>
> Thank you
> With regards
> surajit koley
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 08:48, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Surajit Ji,
>> Here is the high resolution image.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:31 PM [email protected] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I maybe wrong but it looks too tender a plant to be *Agave americana*.
>>> Can you please upload high resolution picture of its leaves?
>>>
>>> On Monday, 15 July 2019 at 09:24:30 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>
>>>> No. Both are different.
>>>> Pl. see
>>>> *Agave sisalana * Perrine
>>>> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/a956ecee73618224ba7e81f012b84671>
>>>> *Agave americana *L.
>>>> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/37d44ce2be8434571a7400aeb05f081b>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 23:08, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I meant would Agave sisalana be a Syn of Agave americana?
>>>>> Aarti
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 9:36 PM Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Garg Ji.
>>>>>> Is Agave sisalana be a Syn?
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Aarti
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 1:51 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Closest I can go with these images is Agave Americana
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asparagaceae/agave/agave-americana>
>>>>>>> after perusing keys and details at species page, as suggested by 
>>>>>>> Paradesi
>>>>>>> ji.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 11:05
>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:324379] Wild Plants for ID : Nasik : 02JUL19
>>>>>>> : AK-6
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wild plants seen on a mountain slope in Nasik.
>>>>>>> Agave Species?
>>>>>>> Aarti
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