Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Commelina diffusa ? 
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/commelinaceae/commelina/commelina-diffusa-1>
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Identification (google.com) 
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On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 1:22:52 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:

> Thanks, Mayur ji.
>
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 13:20, mayur nandikar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Rakesh ji, 
>>
>> *Commelina diffusa *is often misidentified as *C. caroliniana *and with *C. 
>> communis *L., as they shares similar habit. Also called *C. nudiflora, *
>> frequently. 
>> You will also find *C. communis *Vell. (non L.) in synonymy of *C. 
>> diffusa. *
>>
>> All the mentioned species has distinct elliptic to orbicular medial 
>> petal, which is inconspicuous (or rarely absent) in some *Commelina 
>> *species. 
>> For the precise identification I'll prefer spathe and capsule characters, 
>> which is missing in the posted picture, therefore tentative ID can be made 
>> which is more close to *C. diffusa*.     
>>
>> sincerely, 
>> Mayur
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 1:03 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Rakesh ji.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 11:19, dr.rakesh Singh <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sir , Let us ask Mayur Ji about this confusion . To me , presence or 
>>>> absence of prominent concolorous odd petal seems an important character . 
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 9:32 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Rakesh ji,
>>>>> Catalogue of Life 
>>>>> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/search/all/key/Commelina+communis/fossil/1/match/1>
>>>>>  
>>>>> mentions four species with this name.
>>>>> Only *Commelina communis* Engelm. ex Kunth, nom. illeg. 
>>>>> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/2cb47ded80c2c8e8536cb23a6d33e6e9/synonym/6abe732c24ff98851ad08bd04b6d5088>
>>>>>  
>>>>> ambiguous synonym for *Commelina diffusa *subsp*. **diffusa* 
>>>>> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/2cb47ded80c2c8e8536cb23a6d33e6e9/synonym/6abe732c24ff98851ad08bd04b6d5088>
>>>>>  is 
>>>>> distributed in India.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 19:14, dr.rakesh Singh <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It certainly is not Commelina communis , since odd petal is pretty 
>>>>>> big and concolorous . 
>>>>>> I read about it , wikipedia says it is distributed in India too 
>>>>>> ........I wonder why it is not represented in 
>>>>>> EFI or FOI ! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:41 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Mayur ji.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:39, mayur nandikar <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is very difficult to ID with these pictures, rightly suggested 
>>>>>>>> perhaps as *C. diffusa*. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it may not be possible to id, based on these images, 
>>>>>>>>> except for experts on this genus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: Vinay Thite <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 16:36
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:330228] Identification
>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kindly identify this plant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date/Time- 10 SEP 2019
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Location-Place, Altitude, GPS-  Savandurga Hill, Karnataka 
>>>>>>>>> 562201, 12° 55' 0.30'' N 77° 17' 56.36'' E. Altitude 861 Habitat- 
>>>>>>>>> Garden/ 
>>>>>>>>> Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild Plant Habit-Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Herb 
>>>>>>>>> Height/Length- 30 cm. Flower – Blue. Three petals, Two larger petals 
>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>> claw. Is this Commelina diffusa?*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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> J.M.Garg
>
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