Forwarding for ID Distributed as Elaeocarpus serratus ? <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-serratus-1> Group discussion at Elaeocarpus sphaericus (google.com) <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/ygMzU4lyI8Y>
On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 at 11:01:09 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > According to the Plant List* Elaeocarpus* *sphaericus* (Gaertn.) K.Schum. is > a synonym <http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#synonym> of *Elaeocarpus* > *serratus* L. <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2786005> > These pics also match with those for E. serratus on the Biotik site. > (It is not the same as Rudraksh) > regards > Radha > > > I agree what you state but BSI Flora clearly states that these are two > distinct species and the key also says that the leaves of E.serratus are > serrate and Drupes 1-2 seeded whereas they are obsurely crenate or serrate > Drupes are 5-seeded. (The leaf margin of the above plant is almost smooth.) > > and the Marathi name is "Rudraksha" and that for E.serratus is "Perinkara" > Dr Satish Phadke > > > > this is quite confusing. Several of the species are known as rudraksha > > in various sources. > Referring to your 4th picture, I can see some leaves are slightly > serrate. They are also quite obovate, unlike the lanceolate, acute and > narrower leaves of the tree whose seeds are mostly used for religious > malas. > I will try and post some of my pics later if I get a better internet > connection! > regards > Radha > > Thanks a lot. Such interactions are mandatory. Let us see what conclusion > is reached. > Dr Satish Phadke > Elaeocarpus serratus is native to Western Ghats evergreen forests. > The leaf margins are serrated and the fruits are edible. It is called Kara > in Malayalam. > Its fruits (karakka) are used to make pickles. > Several species of Elaeocarpus are generally called rudraksh. > But I think the sacred rudraksh which is used to make religious malas is > from the seeds of Elaeocarpus ganitrus which I believe is a Himalayan > species. > No idea about E.sphaericus. > Hoping to hear more from the experts. > Regards, > Sandhya > > > > efi pages on Elaeocarpus sphaericus > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-angustifolius> > & > Elaeocarpus serratus > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-serratus> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Satish Phadke <[email protected]> > Date: 30 August 2013 20:07 > Subject: [efloraofindia:164000] Elaeocarpus sphaericus > To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> > > > *Elaeocarpus sphaericus * > Observed this tree outside a temple at village Chas (Rajgurunagar) on 24th > Aug 2013. > Please validate. > Dr Satish Phadke > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* > & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use > them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world): > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2165 members & > 1,64,000 messages on 31/8/13) or Efloraofindia website: > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database > of more than 8500 species & 1,70, 000 images). > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9bae1893-107d-4263-a682-947e3c8ac333n%40googlegroups.com.
