Thanks a lot, Nathan ji

On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 21:42, Nathan Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> Habit is indeed a variable characteristic and I often see species that
> are ordinarily upright spread out from the base (especially when damaged).
> Prostrate species can also grow upright in shade or dense competition with
> other plants.  However, due to the cyathium clustering, this isn't E.
> pycnostegia nor any of the sect. Elegantes as the members of sect.
> Elegantes all have solitary cyathia in the leaf axils.  The presence of
> hairs also indicate a taxon other than zornioides, which is glabrous.
>
> The plant is probably closely related to E. indica or may even be an odd
> form of that species.  However, I would need to do more research to be
> confident in any species-level ID.  Photographs of the seeds would be very
> helpful in determining the species.
>
> Best,
> Nathan Taylor
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 2:43 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>> This appears to be *E. pycnostegia* Boiss. var.* zornioides* (Boiss.)
>> Santapau, endemic to C.& Pen. India.
>>
>> N.P.Balakrishnan
>> Thank you so much for identifying this. But I have few doubts.
>> The description given by Fr. Santapau on *E.pycnostegia var.zorniodes* in
>> Flora of Khandala is as follows:
>> "Very similar to* E.pycnostegia* from which it is separated by smooth,
>> non-tuberculate seeds. Leaves are opposite, but branches quite often are
>> only produced in the axil of one of them; size of leaves upto 55x17 mm "
>> I had seen E.pycnostegia in field last year and it was an erect, stout 1
>> - 2 feet high plant.
>> While the plant in question is prostrate, small and spreading.I
>> BSI Flora of Maharashtra has not included this *var.zorniodes* instead
>> mentions E.zorniodes as a different species.
>> But the features given under this doesnt seem to match with my plant.
>> best regards
>>
>> Adittya Dharap
>> I can quiet understand your concerns on the identity of the species. It
>> is necessary to have broader look at each species.
>> Herbaceous Euphorbia species growing in wet habitats, particularly the
>> pycnostegia complex is very variable, depending on the ecological
>> conditions, where they grow. Hence we cannot fix hard and fast parameters
>> on their morphology. Each author describes them in different ways depending
>> on their ecological environment. It is nor advisable to describe each as a
>> separate variety, which would add only confusion and chaos; one has to take
>> a broad outlook on the phenotypic plasticity to each species. Only  a
>> monographer, who has studied a large number of herbarium specimens from
>> various localities can give a broad all-encompassing description.
>> N.P. Balakrishnan
>>
>> 11 Apr. 2014
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Adittya Dharap <[email protected]>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 at 15:03
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:185942] Euphorbiaceae Herb for ID: AVD 09042014
>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Please help me identifying the Euphorbiaceae herb - Euphorbia sp.
>> attached herewith.
>>
>> Habit: Herb, prostrate
>> Habitat: Road side waste land
>>
>> Leaves: 1 to 1.5 cm, Elliptic - oblong, glabrous, rounded tip, minutely
>> serrated to crenulate, petiole - 2 mm
>> Entire plant very leafy, glabrous.
>>
>> Currently in flowering. Image taken on 9th April 2014
>>
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Adittya Dharap
>>
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