Thanks Alastair Ji. Regards, Aarti On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 2:16 PM Alastair Culham <[email protected]> wrote:
> Arctotis and Arctotheca are quite similar. The paper by McKenzie et al. > 2011 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0254629910001493) > is quite useful for distinguishing features: > > Table 1. Comparison of selected morphological characters in *Arctotis* > sect. *Anomalae* with other sections of *Arctotis* and * Arctotheca*. > > *Character* > > *Arctotheca* > > *Arctotis** sect. Anomalae* > > *Arctotis** (other sections)* > > Ray floret fertility > > Neuter > > Neuter or female > > Female > > Central disc floret fertility > > Hermaphrodite > > Hermaphrodite > > Functionally male or sterile > > Floral scent > > Present (absent in *A. populifolia*) > > Present > > Absent > > Disc floret corolla lobe elaboration > > Tuberculate > > Tuberculate or applanate > > Applanate > > Disc floret style thickening base > > Truncate > > Truncate > > Attenuate > > Filament ornamentation > > Papillose > > Papillose > > Smooth > > Maximum pappus scale length > > Always shorter than achene > > Usually longer than achene > > Shorter or longer than achene > > Achene—adaxial ribs > > Longitudinal ridges > > Weakly developed into wings > > Longitudinal ridges (well-developed wings in *A. breviscapa*) > > Achene—abaxial ribs > > Longitudinal ridges > > Two well-developed wings > > Two or three well-developed wings > > > > However, I ‘m not convinced I could see any of these with confidence in > the photos so I am not 100% sure. Both are possible. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Alastair > > > > *From:* Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> > *Sent:* 18 September 2021 17:39 > *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Alastair Culham <[email protected]>; efloraofindia < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:397727] Asteraceae for ID : Golden Gate > Park, San Francisco : 11SEP21 : AK - 012 > > > > Garg Ji, > > Alastair Ji's suggestion of Arctotis arctotoides looks closer to me. > > Did you check the link I had sent? > > Regards, > > Aarti > > > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:37 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Pl. also consider Arctotheca prostrata > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fefloraofindia.com%2F2013%2F05%2F11%2Farctotheca-prostrata%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ca.culham%40reading.ac.uk%7C2dc16c30482346e1d62708d97ac2d07f%7C4ffa3bc4ecfc48c09080f5e43ff90e5f%7C0%7C0%7C637675799402199387%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DjWFP%2Bwqh36n6OLwVkwn3k25HYQfMf%2FMmnKots17dr0%3D&reserved=0> > as > per images and details herein. > > To me appears close. > > > > On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 20:29, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks a lot Alastair Ji. > > Your guess seems to be correct as per the link below since the flowers and > leaves are both matching. > > > > > https://wildflowernursery.co.za/indigenous-plant-database/arctotes-arctotoides/ > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwildflowernursery.co.za%2Findigenous-plant-database%2Farctotes-arctotoides%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ca.culham%40reading.ac.uk%7C2dc16c30482346e1d62708d97ac2d07f%7C4ffa3bc4ecfc48c09080f5e43ff90e5f%7C0%7C0%7C637675799402199387%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=oDnduVAXrL26cqvSYhd1Yr4nfU33Gu9zWx6RbjzweUA%3D&reserved=0> > > > > Regards, > > Aarti > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 7:33 PM Alastair Culham <[email protected]> > wrote: > > My best guess is Arctotis arctotoides which is in cultivation in the USA > (see www.calflora.net/southafrica/arctotis_arctotoides.html > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calflora.net%2Fsouthafrica%2Farctotis_arctotoides.html&data=04%7C01%7Ca.culham%40reading.ac.uk%7C2dc16c30482346e1d62708d97ac2d07f%7C4ffa3bc4ecfc48c09080f5e43ff90e5f%7C0%7C0%7C637675799402209330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HBnAYA6YqDeY3G%2FvQB35f3Af5lWZa2WmA7pIBZ124J8%3D&reserved=0>). > It is also similar to Gerbera and Gazania and I am not 100% confident of my > identification. > > > > Kind regards, > > > Alastair > > > > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *Sent:* 14 September 2021 12:50 > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:397727] Asteraceae for ID : Golden Gate > Park, San Francisco : 11SEP21 : AK - 012 > > > > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Aarti S. Khale* <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 11 Sept 2021 at 11:37 > Subject: [efloraofindia:397727] Asteraceae for ID : Golden Gate Park, San > Francisco : 11SEP21 : AK - 012 > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > > While going through my California plants, I found some I had missed > earlier. > > Leaves are close to Gerbera. > > Please advice. > > Aarti > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAJ6xDqaiUMD0yqood%3Dy-RF5-s649vu-TDKNiTnySM%2ByYwfPWEQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Findiantreepix%2FCAJ6xDqaiUMD0yqood%253Dy-RF5-s649vu-TDKNiTnySM%252ByYwfPWEQ%2540mail.gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7Ca.culham%40reading.ac.uk%7C2dc16c30482346e1d62708d97ac2d07f%7C4ffa3bc4ecfc48c09080f5e43ff90e5f%7C0%7C0%7C637675799402209330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=QYlMkPaHcgrXE4KNlwOabmYDWMtRB%2FZYtX5NOFN3COM%3D&reserved=0> > . > > > > > -- > > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > > > > -- > > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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