Forwarding for ID Distributed as Gentiana carinata ? <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/02/gentiana-carinata-1/> Group discussion at Gentianaceae Sp for ID (17/06/2011 NSJ-02) (google.com) <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/9GGfliIUA74?hl=en#>
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 7:13:07 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: > Gentiana crassuloides Bureau & Franch. ?? > > Thank you > > Saroj Kasaju > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 10:08:27 AM UTC+5:45 JM Garg wrote: > >> Thanks, Chadwell ji >> >> On 7 Dec 2016 2:38 am, "[email protected]" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Gentiana (and now related genera) is a difficult genus, as I have said >>> previously. >>> >>> >>> Distinguishing between G.carinata and similar species is complicated. >>> What a pity that Gentian specialist Aitken at Edinburgh is no longer >>> available to resolve such matters for us. >>> >>> Stewart (back in 1972) recorded G.carinata from 2400-3600m in Kashmir >>> and var. intermedia Clarke from Sonamrag and Suru/Zanskar in Ladakh (also >>> 2400-3600m). >>> >>> I have seen what MIGHT be G.carinata on many occasions in Kashmir. He >>> observed that G.carinata proper was said to have fimbriae in the throat >>> whilst the var. intermedia does not. Stansfield of Liverpool said >>> G.carinata has versatile anthers whilst they are basifixed in G.coronata. >>> Clearly, such characteristics cannot be observed in normal photos of >>> gentians. >>> >>> Apparently, at Kew a great many specimens from Kashmir and adjacent >>> areas are in a cover Gentiana coronata (D.Don ex Royle) DC. but Stewart did >>> not consider them to match the plant figured by Royle. Burkill stated that >>> the type was in too bad a condition for use. >>> >>> *Stewart found the G.marginata, G.carinata, G.coronata group very >>> difficult and in his opinion needed more study.* >>> >>> *I cannot readily check if Aitken at Edinburgh had satisfactorily >>> resolved such matters? I do not know if the characteristics 'Flowers of >>> Himalaya' use to distinguish between G.carinata and G.marginata are >>> authoritative?* >>> >>> *At some stage, I would like to take a serious look at Gentianaceae of >>> NW Himalaya but this is quite a challenge and have yet to find the time to >>> focus properly on the family. SO many other genera belonging to other >>> families also urgently need attention (indeed revision). So many families >>> and genera are poorly known in the Himalaya.* >>> >>> >>> *Certainly more photos in good close-ups showing detail of the corolla, >>> throat of flowers and calyx-lobes would help.* >>> >>> >>> *Cannot comment further at this stage. * >>> >>> >>> On Friday, June 17, 2011 at 7:32:56 AM UTC+1, raj wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>>> Gentianaceae Sp for ID from Gulmarg, Kashmir >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With Regards, >>>> Narendra Joshi >>>> >>>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >> >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/834d4153-2bf3-45bd-a177-aa07a1171b41n%40googlegroups.com.
