Forwarding for ID Distributed Viola reichenbachiana ? <https://efloraofindia.com/2020/12/12/viola-reichenbachiana/> Group discussion at Viola sp. please help with ID-GS18102020-1 (google.com) <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/_lO2OMybCpk>
On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 7:19:00 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > Thanks, Singh ji. > But it is not clear to me. > > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > On Sat, 24 Oct, 2020, 5:27 pm Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There is no visible style or stigma in the third image. >> >> I am enclosing another image, I had taken picture after removing petals. >> >> It is not V. canescens to say the least >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Mob: 9810359089 >> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 5:14 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Singh ji, >>> On carefully checking your 3rd image, I see club shaped stigma only. 4th >>> image is not clear and hazy, so would not like to comment. >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> On Sat, 24 Oct, 2020, 3:54 pm Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Garg ji >>>> I hope you realize that taxonomy of Viola is primarily based on shape >>>> of style and stigma >>>> I finally agreed to Viola sylvatica from Kashmir and Name confusion >>>> could it be V. reichenbachiana ?-GS17102020-6 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!topic/indiantreepix/Dv2vVpA7Q3E> >>>> as >>>> V. canescens mainly because I could not ignore erect nearly club shaped >>>> stigma. >>>> >>>> My this specimen in addition to other features has clearly curved and >>>> beaked style which we never expect in V. canescens. You may compare these >>>> two: >>>> >>>> Viola canescens >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86693&flora_id=5 >>>> >>>> Viola reichenbachiana >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86700&flora_id=5 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 1:09 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It almost appears similar to images in your post at Viola sylvatica >>>>> from Kashmir and Name confusion could it be V. reichenbachiana >>>>> ?-GS17102020-6 >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!topic/indiantreepix/Dv2vVpA7Q3E> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 12:56, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was looking for an authentic site for verification. >>>>>> I think I found one which discusses three similar species almost >>>>>> simultaneously, with key features to distinguish them. >>>>>> As per this possibility of it being *Viola riviniana *are more >>>>>> than Viola reichenbachiana or Viola odorata (if it is not any other >>>>>> species >>>>>> as listed in efloraofindia at Viola >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola> >>>>>> ). >>>>>> But I feel closest is *Viola canescens* Wall. >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-canescens> >>>>>> only. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pl. see details and key features at >>>>>> https://www.first-nature.com/flowers/viola-reichenbachiana.php >>>>>> https://www.first-nature.com/flowers/viola-odorata.php >>>>>> https://www.first-nature.com/flowers/viola-riviniana.php >>>>>> >>>>>> Both POWO >>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:869126-1> >>>>>> >>>>>> and Catalogue of Life >>>>>> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/583232d7b499898dbe97f07ddbe07e58> >>>>>> >>>>>> consider *Viola silvatica* Fries ex Hartm. fil. as a syn. of *Viola >>>>>> riviniana *Rchb. (But no distribution in this part of the world). >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 12:32, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Khillenmarg meadow Kashmir, alt. 3000 m, wild, 8-6-2012 >>>>>>> This is what I now think Viola reichenbachiana curved beaked style, >>>>>>> smaller leaves less than 4 cm in a rosette, peduncle nearly 5 cm long. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:09 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From where, Singh ji? >>>>>>>> Wild or cultivated? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 08:28 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:362252] Viola sp. please help with >>>>>>>> ID-GS18102020-1 >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please help with the ID of this Viola species. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpXxsD7VA-aa0yaNrZJkpOeDB4C4Qem9ppYgDmpEsmhdeA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpXxsD7VA-aa0yaNrZJkpOeDB4C4Qem9ppYgDmpEsmhdeA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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