Thanks Gurcharan ji and Garg ji for illustrating the differences among the 
two species.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 15:43:07 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:

> Thanks, Singh ji.
> You seem to be right.
> I think the difference given above may be more appropriate to 
> differentiate them as per POWO 
> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:76487-1>
>  (*Allamanda schottii* Pohl) and POWO 
> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:319065-2>
>  (*Allamanda cathartica* L.):
> This way only posts at Allamanda schottii Pohl (accepted name) 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/wViDF-vSIB0> may 
> be correct and others may be of *Allamanda cathartica* L. only.
>
>
>
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> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 11:54
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:406837] Re: Allamanda cathartica?
> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>
>
> I think A. cathartica, long cylindrical tube and much shorter swollen 
> upper half is distinctive, in A. schotii cylinderical portion is much 
> shorter than moderately swollen upper portion.
>
> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:02:23 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Dinesh Ji, 
>> With regards. 
>>
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>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 at 10:15, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for resurfacing this post.
>>> I too strongly believe these short plants must be *Allamanda schottii*.
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 4:35 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think Allamanda schottii 
>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/04/allamanda-schottii/>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 19:59, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Forwarding for ID
>>>>> Distributed as Allamanda cathartica ? 
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/allamanda/allamanda-cathartica-1>
>>>>> Yes glabrous leaves and calyx, unequal calyx lobes vote for A. 
>>>>> cathartica
>>>>> Group discussion at
>>>>> Allamanda cathartica? (google.com) 
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PXmp8ejvXBw>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: JM Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 9:34:20 PM UTC+5:30
>>>>> Subject: Allamanda cathartica?
>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/7/08 in Hyderabad, AP. I hope the Id is correct?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Here are some extracts from Wikipedia link on *Allamanda*: 
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allamanda
>>>>>
>>>>> *Allamanda*, also known as *Yellow Bell*, *Golden Trumpet* or *Buttercup 
>>>>> Flower*, is a genus of tropical shrubs or vines belonging to the 
>>>>> dogbane family (Apocynaceae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocynaceae>
>>>>> ).
>>>>>
>>>>> The genus *Alamanda* is native to South 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America> and Central America 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America>. Their year-round 
>>>>> production of large, bright flowers have made the Allamanda popular 
>>>>> ornamentals.
>>>>>
>>>>> A woody, evergreen shrub with vigorous growth, Allamanda may reach a 
>>>>> free-standing height of 2 metres or more. The leathery leaves are 
>>>>> lancelike, pointed, and may either be opposite or in whorls of three or 
>>>>> four. The yellow, trumpet-shaped flowers are 5-7.5 centimetres in 
>>>>> diameter; 
>>>>> cultivated forms tend towards larger blooms which may also be white, 
>>>>> purple, pink or orange in colour. Their scent may be described as 
>>>>> delicate 
>>>>> and fruity.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the wild, Allamanda grow along riverbanks and other open, sunny 
>>>>> areas with adequate rainfall and perpetually moist substrate. The plants 
>>>>> do 
>>>>> not tolerate shade, salty or alkaline soils; they are highly sensitive to 
>>>>> frost. Allamanda are otherwise undemanding and with appropriate 
>>>>> conditions 
>>>>> will grow rapidly, from 1-3 metres annually. The seed capsules are oval 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> prickly; cultivated forms rarely produce seeds, but Allamanda are easily 
>>>>> propagated from cuttings. Discarded cuttings are quick to take root.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allamanda have become naturalized throughout the tropics; they may be 
>>>>> seen in roadside ditches, abandoned yards and dumps. As a controlling 
>>>>> measure, cutting is ineffecive with Allamanda and will lead to vigorous 
>>>>> coppicing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coppicing>. Owing to its fast 
>>>>> growth, Allamanda has been introduced widely where it is used as a 
>>>>> groundcover <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundcover> or for hedges 
>>>>> and screens. In some areas Allamanda are an invasive species 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species>, notably *Allamanda 
>>>>> cathartica* in Queensland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queensland>, 
>>>>> Australia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia>.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Allamanda cathartica* is also notable for its medicinal properties: 
>>>>> all parts of the plant contain allamandin 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Allamandin&action=edit&redlink=1>,
>>>>>  
>>>>> a toxic iridoid lactone 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iridoid_lactone&action=edit&redlink=1>.
>>>>>  
>>>>> The leaves, roots and flowers may be used in the preparation of a 
>>>>> powerful 
>>>>> cathartic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laxative> (hence the name); 
>>>>> the milky sap is also known to possess antibacterial 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibacterial> and possibly anticancer 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticancer> properties. Gardeners 
>>>>> exposed to the sap will develop rashes, itch, and blisters.
>>>>>
>>>>> The genus name *Allamanda* derives from Dr. Frederich Allamanda 
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frederich_Allamanda&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>>  
>>>>> (1735-1803), a Swiss <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland> 
>>>>> botanist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botany> of the late 18th 
>>>>> century.
>>>>>
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