Thanks Gurcharan ji and Garg ji for illustrating the differences among the two species. Regards. Dinesh
On Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 15:43:07 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > Thanks, Singh ji. > You seem to be right. > I think the difference given above may be more appropriate to > differentiate them as per POWO > <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:76487-1> > (*Allamanda schottii* Pohl) and POWO > <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:319065-2> > (*Allamanda cathartica* L.): > This way only posts at Allamanda schottii Pohl (accepted name) > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/wViDF-vSIB0> may > be correct and others may be of *Allamanda cathartica* L. only. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 11:54 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:406837] Re: Allamanda cathartica? > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > I think A. cathartica, long cylindrical tube and much shorter swollen > upper half is distinctive, in A. schotii cylinderical portion is much > shorter than moderately swollen upper portion. > > On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:02:23 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] > wrote: > >> I agree with Dinesh Ji, >> With regards. >> >> >> >> [image: Mailtrack] >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&> >> Sender >> notified by >> Mailtrack >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&> >> 04/18/21, >> 07:01:40 PM >> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 at 10:15, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for resurfacing this post. >>> I too strongly believe these short plants must be *Allamanda schottii*. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 4:35 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think Allamanda schottii >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/04/allamanda-schottii/> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 19:59, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>> Distributed as Allamanda cathartica ? >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/allamanda/allamanda-cathartica-1> >>>>> Yes glabrous leaves and calyx, unequal calyx lobes vote for A. >>>>> cathartica >>>>> Group discussion at >>>>> Allamanda cathartica? (google.com) >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PXmp8ejvXBw> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: JM Garg <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 9:34:20 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>> Subject: Allamanda cathartica? >>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13/7/08 in Hyderabad, AP. I hope the Id is correct? >>>>> >>>>> Here are some extracts from Wikipedia link on *Allamanda*: >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allamanda >>>>> >>>>> *Allamanda*, also known as *Yellow Bell*, *Golden Trumpet* or *Buttercup >>>>> Flower*, is a genus of tropical shrubs or vines belonging to the >>>>> dogbane family (Apocynaceae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocynaceae> >>>>> ). >>>>> >>>>> The genus *Alamanda* is native to South >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America> and Central America >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America>. Their year-round >>>>> production of large, bright flowers have made the Allamanda popular >>>>> ornamentals. >>>>> >>>>> A woody, evergreen shrub with vigorous growth, Allamanda may reach a >>>>> free-standing height of 2 metres or more. The leathery leaves are >>>>> lancelike, pointed, and may either be opposite or in whorls of three or >>>>> four. The yellow, trumpet-shaped flowers are 5-7.5 centimetres in >>>>> diameter; >>>>> cultivated forms tend towards larger blooms which may also be white, >>>>> purple, pink or orange in colour. Their scent may be described as >>>>> delicate >>>>> and fruity. >>>>> >>>>> In the wild, Allamanda grow along riverbanks and other open, sunny >>>>> areas with adequate rainfall and perpetually moist substrate. The plants >>>>> do >>>>> not tolerate shade, salty or alkaline soils; they are highly sensitive to >>>>> frost. Allamanda are otherwise undemanding and with appropriate >>>>> conditions >>>>> will grow rapidly, from 1-3 metres annually. The seed capsules are oval >>>>> and >>>>> prickly; cultivated forms rarely produce seeds, but Allamanda are easily >>>>> propagated from cuttings. Discarded cuttings are quick to take root. >>>>> >>>>> Allamanda have become naturalized throughout the tropics; they may be >>>>> seen in roadside ditches, abandoned yards and dumps. As a controlling >>>>> measure, cutting is ineffecive with Allamanda and will lead to vigorous >>>>> coppicing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coppicing>. Owing to its fast >>>>> growth, Allamanda has been introduced widely where it is used as a >>>>> groundcover <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundcover> or for hedges >>>>> and screens. In some areas Allamanda are an invasive species >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species>, notably *Allamanda >>>>> cathartica* in Queensland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queensland>, >>>>> Australia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia>. >>>>> >>>>> *Allamanda cathartica* is also notable for its medicinal properties: >>>>> all parts of the plant contain allamandin >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Allamandin&action=edit&redlink=1>, >>>>> >>>>> a toxic iridoid lactone >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iridoid_lactone&action=edit&redlink=1>. >>>>> >>>>> The leaves, roots and flowers may be used in the preparation of a >>>>> powerful >>>>> cathartic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laxative> (hence the name); >>>>> the milky sap is also known to possess antibacterial >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibacterial> and possibly anticancer >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticancer> properties. Gardeners >>>>> exposed to the sap will develop rashes, itch, and blisters. >>>>> >>>>> The genus name *Allamanda* derives from Dr. Frederich Allamanda >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frederich_Allamanda&action=edit&redlink=1> >>>>> >>>>> (1735-1803), a Swiss <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland> >>>>> botanist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botany> of the late 18th >>>>> century. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> "We often ignore the beauty around us" >>>>> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google >>>>> e-group (Indiantreepix) >>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en >>>>> For my Birds, Butterflies, Trees, Landscape pictures etc., visit >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3pw7_6OhFx9LDvnV7gqyVs8kRG0BsYJ8NdeQWXBTKBWg%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3pw7_6OhFx9LDvnV7gqyVs8kRG0BsYJ8NdeQWXBTKBWg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9b6c2010-84cf-4984-90d0-88e3a45c54bfn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9b6c2010-84cf-4984-90d0-88e3a45c54bfn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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