Thanks Garg ji and Radha. If more than one species of a family have variations, and to add to confusion, if these are quite similar looking species, then the descriptions alone may not help in reaching ID. I am not good at this *D. belophylla*, but the variations can cause confusion for sure.
In the photo that we see the leaves, each of them appear facing us. I do not know whether such an arrangement can be called alternate leaves. It makes me think that the opposite leaves are absent. Whether leaf arrangement itself is variable in this species, needs to be validated. Regards. Dinesh On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 9:58 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Radha ji. > > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > On Wed, 12 Jan, 2022, 9:56 pm radha veach, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No, of course not. I just wanted to show the more typical leaf form. >> >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022, 09:14 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Radha ji. >>> I am in no way questioning that it is not being found in western ghats. >>> >>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 21:16, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> According to Flora of Pakistan the leaves are *usually* opposite. It >>>> is true Dinesh ji's leaves are alternate. >>>> Please see the link from iNaturalist which shows D. belophylla as >>>> commonly seen in Western Ghats. >>>> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/74846311 >>>> regards >>>> Radha >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 4:43:14 AM UTC-7 JM Garg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Radha ji, for your valuable inputs. >>>>> You may be right on account of cordate leaves as Flora of Pakistan >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242422012> >>>>> says 'Leaves usually opposite, simple, 7.5-13 cm. long, 2-9 cm broad, >>>>> variable, ovate,* cordate or hastate with round basal lobes or >>>>> deltoid,* entire, acuminate, glabrous 9-nerved; petiole 6.5 cm long. >>>>> As per keys in Flora of Pakistan >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=110295>, >>>>> *leaves >>>>> are opposite in D.belophylla, while these appear to be alternate here.* >>>>> Pl. see at K 2226 16 October 2019 >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/QWTBkPUsuZ8> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 22:35, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I feel that Dinesh's plant is correctly identified as *D. >>>>>> belophylla*. The leaves of this species are variable and his images >>>>>> have the typical hastate shape not seen in >>>>>> *Dioscorea bulbifera. * >>>>>> Triangular leaf lobes are also typical. >>>>>> regards >>>>>> Radha >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:20:55 AM UTC-7 Dinesh Valke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, thanks Garg ji, I will correct my notes. >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 3:44 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This looks different from images and references at *Dioscorea >>>>>>>> belophylla* (Prain) Voigt ex Haines >>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/d/dioscoreaceae/dioscorea/dioscorea-belophylla-1> >>>>>>>> Appears close to images and details at *Dioscorea bulbifera* L. >>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/d/dioscoreaceae/dioscorea/dioscorea-bulbifera> >>>>>>>> Needs correction in Flora of India >>>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Spear-Leaved%20Yam.html> >>>>>>>> also. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: JM Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 15:41 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:411668] Fwd: fruits & vegetables :: NATIVE, >>>>>>>> WILD :: Dioscoreaceae » Dioscorea belophylla >>>>>>>> To: DineshValke <[email protected]>, efloraofindia < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Monday, January 3, 2011 at 1:31:15 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>> Subject: fruits & vegetables :: NATIVE, WILD :: Dioscoreaceae » >>>>>>>> Dioscorea belophylla >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dioscoreaceae (yam family) » *Dioscorea belophylla* >>>>>>>> *Synonym*: *Dioscorea glabra* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *dy-oh-SKOR-ee-uh* -- named for Pedanios Dioscorides, 1st century >>>>>>>> Greek pharmacologist >>>>>>>> *bel-oh-FIL-uh* -- spear or arrow-like leaves >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: spear-leaved dioscorea • Bengali: chupri alu >>>>>>>> • Hindi: तुरर turar • Kannada: ಕಾದು ಗೆಣಸು kaadu genasu • Marathi: जंगली >>>>>>>> मटोळ jangli matol, कडु कंद kadu kand, नंद कंद nand kand • Sanskrit: >>>>>>>> शङ्खालुका sankhaluka >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Native of*: India, Pakistan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Edible use (WILD)*: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ... tubers (as VEGETABLE) ... ... tribal folks of Melghat Forest >>>>>>>>> ... ethnoleaflets >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ethnoleaflets.com/leaflets/edibles4.htm> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/aa1535de-8ecb-4294-b4f3-4963d62b5623n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/aa1535de-8ecb-4294-b4f3-4963d62b5623n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f1fc5ebd-9afc-4100-9432-2997bb0a4777n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f1fc5ebd-9afc-4100-9432-2997bb0a4777n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/fc17671e-5d9c-4b12-bf6a-a7d28c7fc198n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/fc17671e-5d9c-4b12-bf6a-a7d28c7fc198n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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