Thanks a lot, Chris ji

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J. M. Garg

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From: Chris Fraser-Jenkins <>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan, 2022, 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:413288] Fern for id..? Alsophila (cyathea)
gigantea
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>


Not this time!  Way off, I'm sorry to say.  Cyathea (Gymnosphaera) gigantea
is glabrous beneath the pinnae and does not have small hairs like that
anywhere.  Also those sori are not in Vs  - when you see real C. gigantea
you will see V-lines of sori, quite different.  Also the lowest pair of
opposite veinlets anastomose beneath the space between the pinnules - they
are free in C. gigantea.

This is Thelypteris (Christella) dentata agg. - I say agg., because in
southern and W. peninsular India T. dentata includes two close species.
True T. dentata has a rather short-creeping , thick rhizomes, closely
surrounded by old stipe-bases, with fronds arising all together at its apex
- and has a bit longer hairs beneath the pinna-costae.  But the other
taxaon, which is either T. malabarica or T. meeboldii (sorry I didn't
finally see which) has a much longer and thin, creeping rhizome with fronds
rather well apart, and the hairs beneath the pinna-costae are smaller.

I vaguely guess your plant is the latter, but for Thelypteridaceae we need
to know about the rhizome.  I wonder if you photographed it? - Or included
it in the herbarium-specimen?

Incidentally, hoth C. gigantea and T. dentata are terrestrial, not
lithophytic.  Lithophytic means growing on the side of the rock, not on the
ground.  Having stones in the ground between soil does not mean they are
lithophytes.

Best wishes,
      Chris F.-J.

On Monday, 24 January 2022, 04:29:39 GMT, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
wrote:


Thanks, Deepak ji

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From: *Deepak Deshpande* <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan, 2022, 7:55 am
Subject: [efloraofindia:413288] Fern for id..? Alsophila (cyathea) gigantea
To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>


Date/Time-22 Jan 2022

Location- Nangartas waterfall, Near Amboli. South West Maharashtra, W.
ghats.-

Habitat- Wild. Lithophytic,in waterfall and on stream bank.

Plant Habit- Shrub in colonies.

Height-50cm

Leaves- 50cm. Stipe having brown scales , very few on rachis.. No spines. Sori
arranged in V-shaped pattern.

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