Hi Mr.Yazdy Palia,
     I did not want to respond to your provocation, but I was just wondering 
if, God forbid, you were to be bitten by a venomous snake would you still 
consult the same homeopath [or would you simply take double the dose of the 
Arsenic]?
                     With regards,
                        Dr. Neil Soares

--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44474] Elephant Apple tree in the rain forest
To: "Vijayasankar" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Pankaj Kumar" <[email protected]>, "Gurcharan Singh" 
<[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "raghu ananth" 
<[email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 9:52 AM


Dear Vijayashankar Ji,
For heavens sake do not go to an alopath for tick allergy. I was once stung by 
a poisonous tick due to which I had a swelling on the feet. I went to a doctor 
after 3 days of swelling. He was a family friend and prescribed avil. The 
swelling immediately subsided. After a month or so, I developed the same 
symptom due to another sting, of which I was not aware. The symptoms were 
terrible, red patches from head to toe, chest pain and a drop in blood 
pressure. I got it treated, however the third time it happened, the reaction 
was so severe that I almost died. The systolic pressure dropped to 45 and I 
could not even stand. The doctors told me that I had to live in a sterilized 
atmosphere or the next time I will be dead before reaching the hospital. My 
Homeopathic doctor just laughed over it and prescribed Arsenicum Album. 
I am now totally free of the symptoms, we continue to have a lot of ticks in 
the summer due to my deers but nothing happens to me now. I have never visited 
an alopath since then.
Regards
Yazdy.


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote:


I am allergic to ticks. the bitten spots will be itching for a month or so, 
can't resist scratching all the time, that ultimately cause wounds! (so i think 
leeches are better than ticks). Heard of people using neem oil, neem soap bath, 
paste of Andrographis paniculata leaves etc etc to manage tick bites and 
related allergies. Ticks are plenty (sometimes rains from twigs in hundreds 
when you shake the branch/leaves while walking in the forest) in dry forests 
and grasslands. 
 
However i am not allergic to leeches. But if once i see them on me, i can't 
concentrate in my work in the field, will spend lot of time in checking for and 
removing them. Will always feel like leeches climbing on and entering into the 
socks, bleeding, etc etc. so frequently check the shoes and inside socks. Not 
yet developed the resistence in mind, will have to learn from people like Yezdi 
ji, Pankaj...
 
Thanks Neil ji for the useful tips. Hope Oudhia ji also will come up with his 
own experience and traditional herbal remedy for the problem.

With regards

Vijayasankar






On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:

I also dont mind leeches climbing on me, but there are risks if some one is 
allergic to it. It almost dissolves a part of the flesh on allergic persons, 
and secondly, if it goes inside ur ears then its really bad. Quercus forests in 
Himalaya can be one of the place where you can find leeches for sure and for 
sure people will be happy if you are collecting them. By the way, why dont you 
breed it Oudhia sir!! 


Pankaj












On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

I have not seen leeches in nature except for few at Pachmarhi back in 1977, but 
remember that when we were small children persons would roam in our area with 
collection of leaches, find a sick man, put leaches on the back of sick man. 
The leaches would suck bad blood (what we were told as children), slowly swell 
up and fall down. 
   Not seen such healers for a long time. Perhaps Dr. Oudhia can throw some 
light.



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/  





On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote:






Hi,
 Had posted this attachment on the 'birdsofbombay' website. It may help.
                        With regards,
                          Neil Soares.

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44449] Elephant Apple tree in the rain forest
To: "Vijayasankar" <[email protected]>
Cc: "raghu ananth" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 9:43 PM 





Hello friends,
I do not use any leech guard, we just get bitten, they suck and drop
by themselves. It bleeds for some time and then stops. We have plenty
of them now, it will increase during the north east monsoon. If you
try to stop the bleeding, some irritation on the spot occurs which can
last for a few months. Not harmful in any way.
It bleeds as long as the sputum remains in the wound and then stops by
itself. However, tobacco juice is a very safe way of preventing the
leeches from climbing on to your limbs.
Regards
Yazdy.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Raghu ji,
>
> What kind of leech guard do you use?
>
> We used to spray dettol as leech repellant over the white foot-sac
> (knee-size spl socks). This works good in keeping leeches away. But we have
> to keep spraying dettol at some time intervals.
>
> Just wanted to know if any other methods are in use.
> With regards
>
> Vijayasankar
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:21 PM, raghu ananth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Elephant Apple tree in the rain forest
>> white flowers, green fruits, height of the tree 50 - 60 feet,
>> ( Leeches are everywhere in the wet forest floor under this tree. They
>> easily detect our presence and seen fast approaching towards us. Leech guard
>> is a must.)
>> Jaipur (Assam)
>> 18 Jul 2010
>> Regards
>> Raghu
>>
>
>









      

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