Hello Dinesh ji *C. pesudomontana* Flower yellow spike arising after the leaves, corolla 2-lipped
*C. amanda* Flower yellow spike arising after the leaves corolla lip 3-lobed *C. decipiens* Flower purple spike arising after the leaves corolla lip 2-lobed *C. neilgherensis* Flower pink spike arise before leaves corolla lip 2-lobed *C. aromatica* Flower pink spike arise before leaves corolla lip 3-lobed *C. inodora* Flower purplish with yellowish tinge on corolla lip Spike arise after leaves, lateral corolla 3-lipped I have not came across C. reclinata, no reference as of now. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:24 PM, satish pardeshi <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello Dinesh ji > *C. pesudomontana* Flower yellow spike arising after the leaves, > corolla 2-lipped > > > *C. amanda* Flower yellow spike arising after the leaves > corolla lip 3-lobed > *C. decipiens* Flower purple spike arising after the > leaves corolla lip 2-lobed > > *C. neilgherensis* Flower pink spike arise before leaves > corolla lip 2-lobed > *C. aromatica* Flower pink spike arise before leaves > corolla lip 3-lobed > *C. inodora* Flower purplish with yellowish tinge on > corolla lip Spike arise after leaves, lateral corolla 3-lipped > > I have not came across C. reclinata, no reference as of now. > > Regards > Satish Pardeshi > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Many thanks Satish ji... much of my clouded mind is clearing ... a >> question remains though ... which is the *Curcuma* that springs up at >> start of monsoon in SGNP, Tungareshwar WLS ... they strat with no leaves >> around it ... to know what my query is, some examples: >> >> 12 JUN 10 ... Tungareshwar WLS ... >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4694901271/ >> 19 JUN 10 ... Yeoor Hills (SGNP) ... >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4714161308/ >> 27 JUN 10 ... Girivan (Maval) near Lonavala ... >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4746005163/ >> >> ... would it be *C. inodora* ? >> >> >> A post at EOI is troubling me, where Dr Pankaj Kumar came up with another >> *Curcuma* ... *C. reclinata* (*C. sulcata*) ... read at your leisure: >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/97c46d8729fad9a8?hl=en >> >> Please respond at your leisure. >> >> >> Your growth-based key helps me: >> >> *C. pesudomontana* Flower yellow spike arising after the leaves >> >> *C. amanda* Flower yellow spike arising after the leaves >> corolla lip 3-lobed >> *C. decipiens* Flower purple spike arising after the leaves >> corolla lip 2-lobed >> >> *C. neilgherensis* Flower pink spike arise before leaves corolla >> lip 2-lobed >> *C. aromatica* Flower pink spike arise before leaves corolla lip >> 3-lobed >> >> >> In this key, how is *C. inodora* placed ? >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:00 AM, satish pardeshi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Dinesh Ji >>> The leaves starts coming out withe the first shower from the underground >>> rhizomes. >>> C. pseudomontana and C. decipiens has its flowering spikes arising from >>> the centre of the tufts of leaves (where as C. inodora has spikes laterally >>> growing) >>> the flowering spike along with its colored bracts remain with plant by >>> end of August but the flower keeps on disintegrating in 1-2 dayz. the >>> flowers are borne in the axils of the bracts and leads to formation of >>> seeding capsules. >>> Regards >>> Satish Pardeshi >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you very much, Satish ji. >>>> >>>> If you have responses for these queries, please help: >>>> >>>> - Does the plant (*C. pseudomontana*) starts growing with the first >>>> showers of monsoon ? >>>> - Does the flower spike start growing right then, and grows along with >>>> leaves >>>> - Normally, how long do these flowers stay with the plant ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Pardeshi S. >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> i will go with Neil ji >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 18, 9:31 am, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > I also got confused by the varried colour combination in this species >>>>> !! >>>>> > Tanay >>>>> > >>>>> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > Thank you very much Neil ji. >>>>> > > *CURCUMA*s keep confusing me. >>>>> > >>>>> > > Would like to see different stages of this *Curcuma*'s growth. >>>>> > > - Does the plant starts growing with the first showers of monsoon ? >>>>> > > - Does the flower spike start growing right then, and grows along >>>>> with >>>>> > > leaves >>>>> > > - Normally, how long do these flowers stay with the plant ? >>>>> > >>>>> > > Regards. >>>>> > >>>>> > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Neil Soares < >>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Hi Dinesh, >>>>> > >> This is the regular Hill Tumeric [Cucurma pseudomontana]. I >>>>> don't see >>>>> > >> anything different in this specimen. Have plenty of these >>>>> currently >>>>> > >> flowering on my property. Will send photographs later in the day >>>>> if >>>>> > >> required. >>>>> > >> Regards, >>>>> > >> Neil. >>>>> > >>>>> > >> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>* >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> > >> Subject: [efloraofindia:44629] DV - 14AUG10 - 1058 :: Curcuma sp. >>>>> near >>>>> > >> Valmiki Ashram >>>>> > >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >>>>> > >> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:50 AM >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Dear friends, >>>>> > >> ID please ... hopefully, have not mixed two different *Curcuma* >>>>> plants >>>>> > >> ... (please correct me if P1220911.JPG is different) >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Date/Time : August 14, 2010 at 10.58am IST, >>>>> > >> Location Place : near Valmiki Ashram, Aaja Parvat, near Shahapur, >>>>> > >> Maharashtra >>>>> > >> Altitude : about 526 m ± 10m (above mean sea level) >>>>> > >> GPS : around 19°27'59.16"N, 73°40'14.29"E >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Habitat : moist deciduous forest >>>>> > >> Type : rain-forest >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Plant >>>>> > >> Habit : annual herb >>>>> > >> Height : about 1 - 1.5 m >>>>> > >> Length : - not a climber - >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Leaves >>>>> > >> Type : simple, with entire and slightly wavy margin, ... growing >>>>> > >> clustered from ground level >>>>> > >> Shape : elliptic, blunt tip, tapering base, fusing with stalk >>>>> > >> Size : about 50 -70 cm long, the stalk also as long as (or longer >>>>> than) >>>>> > >> the leaf, about 15 - 20 cm broad >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Inflorescence >>>>> > >> Type : spike rising from plant base, from - among the leaf stalks >>>>> > >> Size : about 15 - 20 cm, the stalk too as long (or longer) >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Flowers >>>>> > >> Size : the upper-most soft pink ¿ petals ? about 6 - 7 cm x 3 - 4 >>>>> cm >>>>> > >> Colour : pink tinted >>>>> > >> Calyx : do not know >>>>> > >> Bracts : do not know >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Fruits >>>>> > >> Type : do not know >>>>> > >> Shape : do not know >>>>> > >> Size : do not know >>>>> > >> Seeds : do not know >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Other Info >>>>> > >> Fragrance : do not know >>>>> > >> Pollinator : do not know >>>>> > >> Uses : do not know >>>>> > >>>>> > >> Regards. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Tanay Bose >>>>> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant >>>>> > Department of Botany >>>>> > University of British Columbia >>>>> > 3529-6270 University Blvd. >>>>> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >>>>> > Phone: 778-323-4036 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Satish Pardeshi >>> Plant Taxonomist >>> Mumbai, Pune >>> >> >> > > > -- > Satish Pardeshi > Plant Taxonomist > Mumbai, Pune > -- Satish Pardeshi Plant Taxonomist Mumbai, Pune
