... while at Zingiber neesanum, want to clarify whether the illustration at Gingers of India : http://www.gingersofindia.com/images/pictures/neesanum.jpg seems to me slightly different. At FOI, FOS and in EOI database, the flowers seen are yellow, the entire stalk too looks a bit different ... could be my own perception. Please comment.
Response to distribution of *Z. neesanum* is pending. Regards. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > Just to point out..... > neesanum can only be possible if the name was feminine :) according to > latin. > Pankaj > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Some good reading at wiki pages that is already pointed out by > Vijayasankar > > ji. > > > > ... among these two German brothers, both botanists: > > 1) Christian Gottfried Daniel Nees von Esenbeck ... (1776 - 1858) ... > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Daniel_Nees_von_Esenbeck > > 2) Theodor Friedrich Ludwig Nees von Esenbeck ... (1787-1837) ... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Friedrich_Ludwig_Nees_von_Esenbeck > > ... on reading this line: He (Christian Gottfried Daniel) described > > approximately 7,000 plant species (almost as many as Linnaeus himself) > ... > > he must be the one who is commemorated in case of neesanum (context: > > Zingiber neesanum). > > > > Also found: The standard author abbreviation Nees is used to indicate > this > > individual as the author when citing a botanical name. > > in > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Daniel_Nees_von_Esenbeck > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> ... possibly yes, Vijayasankar ji ... finding that there are some names > >> with neesianum in other genera ... (Google searched ... Agathopyllum > >> neesianum, Piper neesianum, Syzygium neesianum) > >> This could have been a stray error while naming and may have got carried > >> away in all texts. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Vijayasankar < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> i wonder if it was named as 'neesianum' or 'neesii' it would have been > >>> better, as told by Gurcharan ji. > >>> With regards > >>> > >>> Vijayasankar > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ... apologies ... subject title of this post carries the spelling > wrong > >>>> ... it must be neesanum. > >>>> Regards. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Dinesh Valke < > [email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ... me too strongly think neesanum to be in honour of Nees von > Esenbeck > >>>>> ... broad reference: A Sketch of the History of Indian Botany ... > >>>>> > http://wgbis.ces.iisc.ernet.in/biodiversity/sahyadri/wgbis_info/botanical.htm > >>>>> > >>>>> Many thanks Vijayasankar ji for pointing out ... many thanks > Gurcharan > >>>>> ji -- considering this to be some sort of exception in commemorative > naming. > >>>>> Many thanks Pankaj for quick responses. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The other query of this post is distribution of Zingiber neesanum in > >>>>> India (elsewhere in world) and want to know its regional names. > >>>>> This plant is rarely found on internet !! and not found in resource > >>>>> texts available with me !! > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Vijayasankar > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How about this hero: > >>>>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Friedrich_Ludwig_Nees_von_Esenbeck > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Many botanical names in Acanthaceae has his (Nees) name as author > >>>>>> name. Perhaps if we check Brummit & Powel's book, we will come to > know about > >>>>>> other names with Nees. > >>>>>> With regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Vijayasankar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Pankaj Kumar > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> by the way, he never came to India or worked on Indian plants. Will > >>>>>>> someone name the plant after him in that case? > >>>>>>> Pankaj > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Vijayasankar > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > May be it was to honour Nees, a botanist... > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Daniel_Nees_von_Esenbeck > >>>>>>> > With regards > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > Vijayasankar > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar > >>>>>>> > <[email protected]> > >>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> I am not sure, but NESO means island or somethign related to > >>>>>>> >> island. > >>>>>>> >> May be it was found on some island. :p...the names suggests its > >>>>>>> >> based > >>>>>>> >> on the name of a place most probably. > >>>>>>> >> Regards > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> Pankaj > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Dinesh Valke > >>>>>>> >> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>>>> >> > Dear friends, > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > 1) Can somebody help me know the derivation of the epithet - > >>>>>>> >> > neesanum > >>>>>>> >> > (context: Zingiber neesanum) > >>>>>>> >> > - could it be derived from regional name in Maharashtra ? > >>>>>>> >> > - in Shrikant ji's FOS and as also put at FOI, the regional > name > >>>>>>> >> > In > >>>>>>> >> > Maharashtra is nisam निसम > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > 2) Is Z. neesanum endemic to Western Ghats of Maharshtra and > Goa > >>>>>>> >> > ? > >>>>>>> >> > What is the Konkani name (in Goa) ? > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > Regards. > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > >
