Quite a mysterious name for sure !! Tanay On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> I thought I had provided the answer when I said that Salvia horminum is now > considered as synonym of S. viridis. Let me explain in simple words for > those who do not have an access to Species plantarum of Linnaeus (1753) or > have not been able to follow the reason for S. viridis having coloured > bracts whereas viridis means green > > Linnaeus on page 24 describes these two species one after another > > viridis 7. Salvia foliis oblongis crenatis, > corollarum, galea semi-orbiculata, calycibus fructiferis reflexis. > Horminum 8. Salvia foliis obtusis crenatis, bracteis summis > sterilibus majoribus coloratis. > * > * > * > * > *Salvia viridis *with normal green bracts (hence no reference to them) and > *Salvia horminum *with upper bracts coloured and sterile. Obviously the > second being much more attractive has been widely cultivated and better > known of the two (There is no mention of S. viridis in Bailey, Manual of > Cultivated Plants). When these two species were merged into one, all > specimens little known normal green plants (*S. viridis* s. s.) and much > better known widely cultivated with upper coloured sterile bracts (*S. > horminum*) are known under the single name *S. viridis* (s. l., including > formerly distinctinct species S. horminum). I think that should explain the > mystery of viridis to all. > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> No, thats your assumption Vijay. Give me one more example where the >> colour has been used for denoting any of life other than colour. Its >> just because the green calyx. But yes, many may say that all Lamiaceae >> has green calyx, but that doesnt matter in Taxonomy. The reference >> used by Linne names this plant as "Horminum >> coma viridi" which precisely leads to calyx colour, or in worst case >> these is a tuft of green leaves below the inflorescence. >> Regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Aug 23, 11:00 am, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Dear Pankaj ji, >> > >> > Salvia viridis (all Salvias for that matter) is reported to have >> "healing >> > properties" and also considered as "tonic" which helps keep you >> 'healthy' >> > and "young" i.e. green, all the time!! This is what i infer from the >> Wiki >> > link. So the specific epithet here denotes the use of the plant and not >> its >> > colour or appearance. Am i right? >> > >> > With regards >> > >> > Vijayasankar >> > >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Thanks for sharing, but the question still remains unanswered, why the >> > > name is viridis, which means green. >> > > Pankaj >> > >> > > On Aug 23, 10:22 am, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Thanks Gurcharan ji and Vijaya ji for enlightening me about the >> specific >> > > > epithet of the plant. >> > > > tanay >> > >> > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Vijayasankar < >> [email protected] >> > > >wrote: >> > >> > > > > Yes Gurcharan ji, Wiki also provides the etymology: "...*viridis*, >> from >> > > > > the Greek, refers to the color green, with implications of youth >> and >> > > > > vigor..." so here the specific epithet refers the use of the >> plant. >> > >> > > > > With regards >> > >> > > > > Vijayasankar >> > >> > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >> > > [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > > > >> Tanay and Vijayasankar ji >> > > > >> The answer may lie in the fact that species for many years was >> known >> > > as S. >> > > > >> horminum, a greek name for sage. Only recently it has been merged >> with >> > > S. >> > > > >> viridis, originally described as distinct species by Linnaeus >> > >> > > > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_viridis >> > >> > > > >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_viridis> >> > > > >> -- >> > >> > > > >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > > > >> Retired Associate Professor >> > > > >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > > > >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > > > >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > > > >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > > > >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, tanay bose < >> [email protected] >> > > >wrote: >> > >> > > > >>> This question also stuck me but I found Vijaya Ji has already >> placed >> > > it >> > > > >>> well !! >> > > > >>> tanay >> > >> > > > >>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Vijayasankar < >> > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > >>>> Nice pictures Gurcharan ji. But why the name 'viridis' (means >> > > 'green')? >> > >> > > > >>>> With regards >> > >> > > > >>>> Vijayasankar >> > >> > > > >>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >> > > [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > > > >>>>> Salvia viridis from Kashmir, perhaps a recent introduction in >> > > Kashmir >> > > > >>>>> Gardens. Photographed from Hazuribagh Garden in Srinagar on >> June >> > > 16, 2010. >> > >> > > > >>>>> -- >> > > > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > > > >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >> > > > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > > > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > > > >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > > > >>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > > > >>> -- >> > > > >>> Tanay Bose >> > > > >>> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant >> > > > >>> Department of Botany >> > > > >>> University of British Columbia >> > > > >>> 3529-6270 University Blvd. >> > > > >>> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >> > > > >>> Phone: 778-323-4036 >> > >> > > > -- >> > > > Tanay Bose >> > > > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant >> > > > Department of Botany >> > > > University of British Columbia >> > > > 3529-6270 University Blvd. >> > > > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >> > > > Phone: 778-323-4036 >> > > > > -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
