Yes, id should be Ok, in view of keys from Flora of China <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128835>: 45 (44) <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128835#KEY-1-44> Stems smooth or sparsely aculeolate; flowers purplish red, greenish yellowish, or whitish; fruit 3.5-4 mm in diam., black at maturity. 37 *R. wallichiana* <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242425052> + Stems rather markedly or sparsely aculeolate; flowers greenish, yellowish, or whitish; fruit 4-6(-7) mm in diam., orange at maturity. 5 *R. cordifolia* <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022213>
On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 15:15, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for clarifying Saroj ji > As almost all the berries are about 3mm in diameter (See photo of plant > with berries) so I would take it to be Rubia wallichiana. > Again thanks for enabling me to arrive at the correct ID. > With regards > Taffazull > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 11:41:27 AM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju > wrote: > >> Berry diameter is 3.5-4 mm in wallichiana and 4-6 mm in cordifolia, both >> black color ! >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Saroj ji but I am puzzled by the size of the fruits as I know >>> very little taxonomy. >>> Can cordifolia have such tiny fruits or is it some variety of >>> cordifolia. There were two larger fruits of 5 mm dia in the entire >>> ensemble (Photo is attached) but the vast majority are tiny 2mm dia black >>> fruits. Of course the stem is very aciculate with little spines clearly >>> visible in the plant photo. >>> I would be grateful for a definitive view . >>> With regards >>> taffazull >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 9:54:48 AM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Or maybe cordifolia ?? >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:16 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Garg ji but is it validated as Rubia wallichiana ? >>>>> with regards >>>>> taffazul >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:53:09 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Taffazul ji, for the details. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 19 Oct, 2022, 1:35 pm [email protected], <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Kindly confirm if the plant is *Rubia wallichiana* .It was growing >>>>>>> in a lawn* in *Srinagar .The stem is aciculate and square.The >>>>>>> corolla of the flowers is white and most of the fruits are black and >>>>>>> tiny >>>>>>> 2-3 mm in dia though a very few were upto 5 mm in dia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Walter R.Lawrence in “The Valley of Kashmir” (1895) Chapter XIII >>>>>>> p 344 writes that till Samvat 1923 ( 1866 A.D.) madder was cultivated >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Kashmir and its roots sold at 8 Annas per Seer (at present rates about >>>>>>> Rs350/Kg.).Rubia wallichiana is even today in use by Monpa people of >>>>>>> Tibet >>>>>>> and Arunachal Paradesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yang R et al in their paper published in the *Nature *family Open >>>>>>> Access Journal *Science Reports* write that: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “ Synthetic dyes not only pollute the environment and damage >>>>>>> ecosystems but can also be harmful to human health..Thus, an >>>>>>> “eco-efficiency” concept has come into existence to bring economic and >>>>>>> environmental viability together.. As a biodegradable and recyclable >>>>>>> resource, natural dyes are gradually beginning to receive more attention >>>>>>> *..(** Yang, R., Zhang, Y., Ranjitkar, S. et al. 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