Thanks, Brij Mohan ji
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On Sun, 23 Oct, 2022, 8:46 am bmb, <[email protected]> wrote:

> The climber has been identified as *Mansoa difficilis (Cham.) Bureau & K.
> Schum. *by Dr. Lúcia G Lohmann, University of São Paulo, Brazil.
> Native to Bolivia, Paraguay, Brazil, and Argentina.
> Daves garden has a comment on this plant for being  erroneously identified
> as  *Bignonia binata *for many years.
>
> Here is complete description from world flora:-
>
> Stem: shoot cylindric not viscose squamulose to puberulent striate/region
> interpetiolar without nectary. Leaf: number of the leaflet 2 to 3; petiole
> 1.7 to 3.5 long (cm)/squamulose nectariferous patelliform; petiolule 0.9 to
> 1.3 long (cm)/puberulent; limb 6 to 9 long (cm)/chartaceous/elliptic to
> ovate; apex margin base acuminate/entire revolute/cordate to attenuate;
> side adaxial and abaxial squamulose/concolor; tendril trifurcate without
> disc adherent. Inflorescence: type raceme lax pauciflorous; peduncle
> cylindric squamulose; axis 5 to 10 long (cm). Flower: calyx 0.7 to 0.9 long
> (cm)/0.6 to 1 wide (cm)/green coriaceous cylindric truncate to 5 dentate
> squamulose not ciliate nectary absent; venation of the calyx prominent
> lengthened above of the sepal not undulate; corolla 4.5 to 6 long (cm)/3 to
> 5 wide (cm); corolla purple membranous tubular campanulate/apex of the
> lacinia rounded/region upper puberulent region median tomentose region
> basal glabrate; stamen included/connective lengthened pubescent; ovary
> cylindric squamulose/4 series of the ovule by locule. Fruit: capsule 21 to
> 29 long (cm)/1.5 to 2 wide (cm)/linear oblong apex acuminate margin
> irregularly constricted base cuneate; valve coriaceous striate not
> verrucose glabrate midrib proeminent 1 rib calyx caducous. Seed: seed
> transversely elliptic paleaceous wing hyaline.
> http://www.worldfloraonline.org/taxon/wfo-0000779026#description
>
> with regards
> Brij Mohan Bhardwaj
> On Saturday, 8 October, 2022 at 11:28:01 am UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tramil.net%2Fen%2Fplant%2Fcydista-aequinoctialis&psig=AOvVaw3UT1cBVczbgQwXgCiwCjMm&ust=1665295016909000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA0QjRxqFwoTCJDtpsH5z_oCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 10:19 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In that case, Cydista aequinoctialis is more likely. Both are quite
>>> confused.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 21:16, Brij Mohan Bhardwaj <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the lead Sheila ji.
>>>> *But the description of Cydista aequinoctialis as per Flora of
>>>> Micronesia, 5 :-*
>>>> *Extensive vine, lacking garlic odor, leaflets large, ovate, tendril
>>>> simple often much exceeding leaflets; inflorescence a twice or more
>>>> trichotomous terminal panicle; flowers funnelform, throat yellow within,
>>>> brownish outside, lobes lavender or pink or whitish with purple markings;
>>>> fruit a large stiff brown dehiscent strap-shaped pod; seed body small,
>>>> wings extending several times its width.*
>>>>
>>>> In this case tendrils are trifid. Moreover 'throat yellow within,
>>>> brownish outside' doesn't match. Inflorescence 'twice or more trichotomous'
>>>> is also not matching. Not sure if these can be local variations.
>>>>
>>>> Can't be Mansoa alliacea as it lacks garlic odour. Infact I have both
>>>> these climbers in my backyard so it's easy to compare.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 20:50, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Sheila ji.
>>>>> I think more closer to images at Mansoa alliacea
>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/13/mansoa-alliacea/>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 18:06, Plantaholic Sheila. <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Super clear pics.
>>>>>>   Try Cydista aequinoctialis...now renamed  *Bignonia aequinoctialis*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://uk.inaturalist.org/taxa/273930-Cydista-aequinoctialis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 12:51:54 PM UTC+1 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Superb images.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J. M. Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Oct, 2022, 4:13 pm bmb, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please help to ID this Bignoniaceae Climber
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Location - Ludhiana, Punjab
>>>>>>>> Date - 07-10-2022
>>>>>>>> Growing in Garden
>>>>>>>> Leaves - usually three foliate with central leaflet modified to
>>>>>>>> tendril
>>>>>>>> Some leaves trifoliate
>>>>>>>> Tendril trifid
>>>>>>>> Petioles longer than petiolules.
>>>>>>>> Generally blooms when temperature drops and usually flowers last
>>>>>>>> for 2-3 days only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards
>>>>>>>> Brij Mohan Bhardwaj
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