Thanks Garg ji, for the deep dive. Raman
On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 8:52:06 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > I am getting confused. > It is also possible that all our observations are of *Lonchocarpus > sericeus* (Poir.) Kunth ex DC only as per specimens at POWO 1 > <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:143380-2> > (*Lonchocarpus > sericeus*) and POWO 2 > <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:143320-2> > (*Lonchocarpus > minimiflorus* Donn.Sm.). > I will keep all these as *Lonchocarpus sericeus* (Poir.) Kunth ex DC for > the time being. > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 20:33, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Going by the images and description of both species in the book link >> <https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Trees_of_Panama_and_Costa_Rica/TqlGnkl8rPIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Lonchocarpus+minimiflorus+%2B+Lonchocarpus+sericeus&pg=PA226&printsec=frontcover>, >> >> it may be *Lonchocarpus minimiflorus* >> The following may also be the same: >> Request Tree ID 51 – Bangalore – RA – Is it some variant of quickstick >> (Gliridicia)? >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/7A2YvtV6ScQ> >> >> >> On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 20:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, appears close to your earlier observations at Request Tree ID 51 – >>> Bangalore – RA – Is it some variant of quickstick (Gliridicia)? >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/7A2YvtV6ScQ> >>> But we have to find out the keys/ differences whether it is *Lonchocarpus >>> minimiflorus* Donn.Sm. or *Lonchocarpus sericeus* (Poir.) Kunth ex DC >>> >>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 13:59, 'raman' via eFloraofIndia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Garg ji, >>>> >>>> I got this information from Dr Shankar Rao IISc: >>>> The trees you have seen in Malleshwaram could be *Lonchocarpus >>>> minimiflorus* Donn.Sm. (Leguminosae). >>>> I can confirm this when the tree comes to flower in summer. You can >>>> see the flowers in Flora of Peninsular India website. >>>> >>>> I have also seen Lonchocarpus, but they were very short trees. >>>> Looks like this one. I will verify it when the flower comes >>>> >>>> The one i have is this: >>>> Senegal Lilac Tree : *Lonchocarpus sericeus, (Poir.) Kunth ex DC* >>>> 240. <http://localhost/Flora%20and%20Fauna/HTML/trees.html?tid=215> >>>> >>>> Raman >>>> >>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 12:21:40 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Raman ji. >>>>> I tried again but failed. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 at 12:01, 'raman' via eFloraofIndia < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Garg ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> I posted 2 hires images. >>>>>> >>>>>> I meant magnolia leaves are more wavy and turns yellow when falling. >>>>>> The younger leaves are more reddish in these trees. >>>>>> I haven't taken my camera, so its difficult to take a picture with >>>>>> phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Raman >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 11:58:14 AM UTC+5:30 raman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> canopy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 11:57:17 AM UTC+5:30 raman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not magnolia the bark is so different and leaves more wavy and >>>>>>>> turns yellow when falling >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 9:12:04 AM UTC+5:30 Mahadeswara >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>> Definitely not *M.champaca * . >>>>>>>>> *M.champaca* is a very common tree in Mysore & Bangalore and >>>>>>>>> leaves are quite different. >>>>>>>>> With Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 9:15:35 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar >>>>>>>>> Kasaju wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Magnolia champaca ?? >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 2:43 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Raman ji, >>>>>>>>>>> Can you post high res. images? >>>>>>>>>>> It may give better clues for id. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 18:40, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Raman ji, for further details. >>>>>>>>>>>> Flowers/ fruits, when they come, may be of help. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 18:45, 'raman' via eFloraofIndia < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Garg ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> They are tall trees, and local people say that its a forest >>>>>>>>>>>>> tree, and it flowers in Mar/Apr. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Its puzzling for me for weeks now. I have seen around 10-12 >>>>>>>>>>>>> trees. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The leaflets are somewhat wavy, and very smooth, around 7/9 >>>>>>>>>>>>> leaflets. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The bark is grey and shiny in some trees. >>>>>>>>>>>>> They are somewhat like ailanthus (or like coconut) where there >>>>>>>>>>>>> are no leaves or branches close to 15/20 ft from the ground. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will wait for somebodyelse to throw some light. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Raman >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 3:58:24 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried, but unable to reach anywhere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 13:30, 'raman' via eFloraofIndia < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: 20221020_115610.jpg][image: 20221020_114313.jpg]I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see these trees in streets of Malleshwaram, Bangalore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd pinnate leaves and grey bark. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: 20221020_114243.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f14b3b09-b429-492e-92f5-2c6f72472e32n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f14b3b09-b429-492e-92f5-2c6f72472e32n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98746369-0b93-4caf-bd5e-b11b7981aa89n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98746369-0b93-4caf-bd5e-b11b7981aa89n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBqfmVGsUVV3OgVY4Up3WPHgTW7%3DMR%2BrCFoqpQPCPBaJw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBqfmVGsUVV3OgVY4Up3WPHgTW7%3DMR%2BrCFoqpQPCPBaJw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/e47a91f0-8232-4a60-a31a-ae1dc3896d66n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/e47a91f0-8232-4a60-a31a-ae1dc3896d66n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/608af8c0-dfc7-4eec-9252-37757e6c90can%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/608af8c0-dfc7-4eec-9252-37757e6c90can%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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