Pl. see at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/03/gymnema-sylvestre/

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 21:44, takdeer katira <[email protected]>
wrote:

> plz send me the pic of Gurmar plant,if avaliable
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 17:47 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Going by the above details, I will go for S.blanda.
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 17:41, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Comparing the descriptions of both from IBP:
>>>
>>>  Smithia blanda <https://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/259473>
>>>
>>>  Smithia venkobarowii
>>> <https://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/263394>
>>>
>>> Tall, much branched sub-shrubs,
>>> * lower stem prostrate; stem, petioles, rachis, leaf margins and midrib
>>> below long-bristly. Leaflets 4-5 pairs,* 1-2 x 0.5-0.8 cm, *elliptic
>>> lanceolate,* obtuse at apex with mucronate tip, ciliate on margins;
>>>
>>> *rachis ending in a subulate bristle. Racemes corymbose, axillary and
>>> terminal; *bracts lanceolate, 0.5-0.7 cm.
>>>
>>> Calyx 0.5 cm long, *2-lipped, upper large,* *emarginate, *lower
>>> 3-lobed, *ciliate on margins.* Petals yellow, 1-1.3 cm long, wing petal
>>> with transverse scaly foldings. Pods 4-5 jointed folded and enclosed in the
>>> accrescent calyx.
>>>
>>> From Flora of China
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242349533>:
>>> Shrublets, 40-60 cm tall. Stems densely golden setose. Stipules
>>> lanceolate, villous. Leaves 4-10-foliolate; petiolules less than 1 mm;
>>> leaflet blades oblong to obovate-lanceolate, 6-12 × 2.5-3 mm, papery,
>>> midvein setose, base oblique, margin setose, apex obtuse to rounded and
>>> with a spine like mucro. In­florescences axillary, scorpioid cymes, with
>>> flowers usually clustered at apical part; peduncle 1.5-4 cm, setose; bracts
>>> ovate-orbicular. Flowers ca. 1 cm. Pedicel 1-3 mm; bracteoles suborbicular,
>>> 2.5-3.5 mm, membranous. Corolla yellow; stan­dard orbicular, with short
>>> claw, base acuminate, apex cuneate to slightly emarginate; wings smaller
>>> than standard, with an auri­cle; keels ± as long as wings, with an auricle.
>>> Stamens diadel­phous. Ovary with trichomes; style filiform; stigma
>>> terminal. Legume a plicate loment, 2.5-3 mm wide, shortly stipitate,
>>> divided into 5 or 6 articles; articles with reticulate veins. Seeds not
>>> seen. Fl. Aug-Sep, fr. Sep-Oct.
>>>
>>> Erect subshrubs, to 70 cm high; *stem white, yellowish villous.*
>>>
>>> *Leaflets 2-4 pairs,* 2-2.5 x 0.5 cm, *oblong,* obtuse, mucronate, *glaucous
>>> beneath,* glabrous, rachis hairy; stipules 12 mm long, 2-lobed at base;
>>> glabrous.
>>>
>>> *Racemes 2 cm across; congested; *bracts deciduous; bracteoles 3 x 1.5
>>> mm, obovate, bristled. Flowers few;
>>> Calyx 7 mm long,* lips similar, obtuse,* *sparsely ciliate; *standard 1
>>> cm across, yellow. Joints of pods 3 x 2.5 mm, orbicular, strongly
>>> reticulate, smooth, 5-7 together.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 at 16:38, Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, thanks dear Garg ji, and All Members, with kind regards, Sam.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, 3:01 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To further confirm, we have to find out the difference between *Smithia
>>>>> venkobrowii* and *S.blanda* or detailed description of both.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 22:52, Sam Kuzhalanattu <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know dear Garg ji,
>>>>>> kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, 9:49 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me appears close to images at Smithia blanda
>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/30/smithia-racemosa/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 21:38, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Location:*near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Dist. Kerala INDIA,
>>>>>>>> recently - from Sam ji in another post.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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