Dear Pam, Please have look at this link to validate the ID : https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/lIXCNocRI5U/m/xny9EvT-AgAJ
Thank you. Saroj Kasaju On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:54 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > John Richards is an expert on this. Pl. Take his views. > > On 04-Jan-2018 12:24 AM, "Saroj Kasaju" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ID validation pending ! >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:36 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Chadwell ji >>> >>> On 27 Jan 2017 7:52 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> OK. This adds up. Though would still be worth approaching Professor >>>> Richards for his opinion as to identification - plants >>>> is cultivation often get mixed-up by various means and are not always a >>>> single pure species. >>>> >>>> ANY plant growing anywhere near habitation in Nepal could easily be a >>>> cultivated plant - even if 'naturalised' to an extent, which >>>> the Primula you photographed appears to have be. >>>> >>>> Primula forbesii does appear to have been naturalised for decades in >>>> Nepal as have numerous other PROMINENT plants. >>>> >>>> The Supplement to Flowers of the Himalaya has 2 photos of Euphorbia >>>> pulcherrima (known as 'Poinsetta') which is a native of >>>> Central America, commonly cultivated in the tropics which is a common >>>> hedge plant in Nepal to 2000m. Its large vermillion-coloured >>>> bracts are prominent from a distance. This, presumably was spread >>>> around the world centuries ago. >>>> >>>> Agave spp. also from the Americas are commonly cultivated as >>>> hedge-plants in the Himalaya. >>>> >>>> Yucca aloifolia, a native of N & C. America is cultivated and planted >>>> by roadsides in Chamba and Kulu Valley in H.P. - I have seen Indian >>>> tourists stopping their cars to pluck the long branched clusters of >>>> cream or white flowers. >>>> >>>> Whilst Opuntia monacantha 'Prickly Pear' is commonly planted as a hedge >>>> plant and has naturalized in cultivated areas and on waste ground >>>> to 1800m. There is a photo in 'Flowers of the Himalaya'. There are >>>> other Opuntias cultivated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Chadwell >>>> >>>> >>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SLOUGH >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SL3 8BE >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> UK >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> www.shpa.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* C CHADWELL <[email protected]>; efloraofindia < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, 27 January 2017, 6:51 >>>> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:262569] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Primula malacoides >>>> Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii (accepted name) >>>> >>>> Dear Chris, >>>> >>>> Found plenty of this plant along the walls of water canal just outside >>>> the enclosure of protected garden inside the Godawari Botanical Garden . >>>> I guess they might have introduced in the garden. >>>> >>>> Thank you . >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 Jan 2017 10:09, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji >>>> >>>> On 26 Jan 2017 10:28 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <chrischadwell261@btinternet. >>>> com <[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have NOT looked closely at the photos posted but have reservations >>>> about the identification of P.malacoides unless it was being cultivated at >>>> Godawari. It is not a native of Nepal and has not previously been recorded >>>> as naturalised. >>>> >>>> In the UK it is still (according to Professor Richards) a popular plant >>>> for heated glasshouse and conservatory culture. It has been seen (by >>>> Richards) to be grown as a municipal bedding plant in Sydney, Auckland, >>>> Christchurch & Singapore. >>>> >>>> In the wild it is distributed from just outside Myanamar on the Yunnan >>>> border near the Salween, throughout Yunnnan to western >>>> Kweichow. A weed of cultivated fields. >>>> >>>> Richards described it as closely-related to another weed species, >>>> Primula forbesii. >>>> >>>> Whereas, P.forbesii had been recorded around temples near Kathmandu >>>> (and some other parts of Nepal) - confirmed by Richards. *Though I >>>> remain curious as to how it got there as this species, though pretty >>>> enough, is hardly a normal garden plant.* >>>> >>>> In 'Primula' (2003) Richards has a key which separates P.forbesii from >>>> P.malacoides (and some other species) on the basis of >>>> the former species having the lowest whorl of flowers overtopping the >>>> leaves. In the latter, the stem below lowest whorl of flowers >>>> not exceeding the leaves. >>>> >>>> *Perhaps, again, the best person to confirm the identity is Professor >>>> Richards, so why not forward him the images, as was done * >>>> *with two other Primulas.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Chadwell >>>> >>>> >>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SLOUGH >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SL3 8BE >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> UK >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=81+Parlaunt+Road%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> www.shpa.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* efloraofindia <[email protected] m >>>> <[email protected]>> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 January 2017, 10:51 >>>> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:262457] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Primula malacoides >>>> Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii (accepted name) >>>> >>>> Thank you Dr. Bawri for the ID but not listef in Nepal so far! >>>> >>>> On 26 Jan 2017 13:15, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot, Bawri ji. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: *Dr. Amal Bawri* >>>> Date: 26 January 2017 at 12:14 >>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Primula malacoides Franch. (accepted name) or Primula >>>> forbesii (accepted name) >>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Primula malacoides >>>> On Jan 26, 2017 12:10 PM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: *Saroj Kasaju* <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 14 January 2017 at 23:11 >>>> Subject: Primula malacoides Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii >>>> (accepted name) >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected] m >>>> <[email protected]>>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Members, >>>> >>>> Location: Godawari, Nepal >>>> Altitude: 5000 ft. >>>> Date: 10 January 2017 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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