Thanks, Tabish ji -- With regards, J. M. Garg
On Sun, 27 Nov, 2022, 4:42 pm Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote: > These two Phlogacanthus species from Manipur had confused me for a long > time. Even Dr. John Wood had not been able to help in this matter. Now in > the light of the following paper (by M. Sawmliana et al.): > https://mapress.com/pt/article/view/phytotaxa.573.2.8 > the Phlogacanthus-A attached by me is *Phlogacanthus jenkinsii. *The > Phlogacanthus-B attached by me (the one with reddish flowers) is the real > Phlogacanthus thyrsiformis. This has been confirmed by one of the authors > of this paper, Dr. Sudhansu Sekhar Dash. > Cheers! > Tabish > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: JM Garg <Unknown> > Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 6:28:02 PM UTC+5:30 > Subject: Fwd: Phlogacanthus of NE India > To: efloraofindia <Unknown> > Cc: Tabish <Unknown> > > > Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tabish <[email protected]> > Date: 6 July 2016 at 17:07 > Subject: Phlogacanthus of NE India > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > Cc: Flowers of India <[email protected]> > > > Dear Garg ji, > Thanks for reminding about this issue once again. I have been looking at > it, and the issue appears to be complex to me. > Firstly, I agree that Polunin & Stainton wrongly identified (probably) > Phlogacanthus thyrsiflorus, as P. pubinervius. > Secondly, there seem to be two different plants in Manipur, locally > considered to be different. I am atatching pictures of them as > Phlogacanthus-A and Phlogacanthus-B. > These two look different to me because > 1. the inside of the flower in Phlogacanthus-B appears to be much more > hairy, compared to Phlogacanthus-A. > 2. The flower shapes look different to me, although can't be too sure > about that > 3. See where the sepals are in the fully open flowers. Look at the bottom > flowers in Phlogacanthus-B-2 for example, in comparison to Phlogcanthus-A-1 > and A-3. > > Description of P. thyrsiflorus in Flora of Brit. India says that bracts > are about as long as sepals, not longer. In the description of P. > thyrsiformis in some papers, the bracts are mentioned to be much longer > than sepals. Makes me wonder if these two are different plants. To me, my > Phlogacanthus-A appears to agree with the herbarium image of Phlogacanthus > thyrsiflorus at Kew: > http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000950020 > but not my Phlogacanthus-B. > > To compound the confusion, some papers seems to consider P. thyrsiformis > and P. thyrsiflorus as two different plant. I attach one such paper, where > P. thyrsiformis is described as the plant with brick-red flowers, which > agrees with my Phlogacanthus-B. > I will be happy to have this issue resolved. This discussion which > already happened at efloraofindia doesn't throw any light on this. > Cheers! > Tabish > > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:10 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Tabish ji, >> Correct name of Phlogacanthus thyrsiflorus at FOI >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nongmangkha.html> should >> be Phlogacanthus thyrsiformis. Pl. see detailed discussions at Phlogacanthus >> thyrsiformis >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/phlogacanthus/phlogacanthus-thyrsiflorus-1> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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