Thanks very much, Radha, for the description of fruits of both species. Next time I hope to get a close up of the fruit bristles. This posted plant, I would go with my initial thoughts; many thanks to Garg ji for the same ID. Regards. Dinesh
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 8:04 AM radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: > In Flora of Karnataka it is mentioned under *Triumfetta pentandra* that > the fruits are globose to ovoid with *bristles hairy on one side.* Buds > are constricted in the middle. > Under *Triumfetta rhomboidea *the *bristles are glabrous except at the > base*. In Flora of North America the fruits of *T. rhomboidea* are said > to be globose to ovoid-globose. > It seems we need very clear close up images to see these details, as well > as seeing the overall habit of the plant. > > I hope this helps. > Regards > Radha > On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 6:24:40 AM UTC-6 Dinesh Valke wrote: > >> Thanks, Garg ji. >> >> My thoughts: >> Number of stamens in *T. pentandra* is not always 5 ... It could be >> more, is what I have been seeing. >> The mentioned *efi thread* >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20AND$20rhomboidea/indiantreepix/8sYPclpzsew> >> does not compare shape and size of fruits. >> In case of *T. pentandra*, the fruits are ovoid, and in case of *T. >> rhomboidea* - globular. >> The posted plant has ovoid fruits. >> >> I will keep the posted plant's observation labelled as *T. rhomboidea*. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 17:21:52 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >> >>> This is Triumfetta rhomboidea only. Pl. see >>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/03/triumfetta-rhomboidea/ >>> (Key- Stamen 10 as compared to 5 in *Triumfetta pentandra* A.Rich. >>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/triumfetta/triumfetta-pentandra> >>> as per *efi thread* >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20AND$20rhomboidea/indiantreepix/8sYPclpzsew> >>> ) >>> >>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 at 14:51, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> *Triumfetta rhomboidea* Jacq. ... OR ... is it rather *Triumfetta >>>> pentandra* A.Rich. ? >>>> Waghbil, Thane, Maharashtra :: Dec 7, 2010 · 4:08 PM IST :: about 3 m >>>> (10 ft) asl >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> Dear friends, this is quite an old observation which I have labelled it >>>> as *Triumfetta rhomboidea*, based on count of stamens (as much as 10). >>>> Now when I am paying attention to the shape of fruits, they look ovoid than >>>> globular. Thus, I believe this plant is rather *Triumfetta pentandra* >>>> A.Rich. ... please help check. >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> [image: Triumfetta rhomboidea Jacq.] >>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154578857> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC22ngADY6%3DADoQ4EbZoaS94WmROP4JtLJ0bkBUKYphScA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC22ngADY6%3DADoQ4EbZoaS94WmROP4JtLJ0bkBUKYphScA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/6k5PHMC1RUU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/df978474-4cef-4347-bf8a-f8560f375c8dn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/df978474-4cef-4347-bf8a-f8560f375c8dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC2Un4Gp%2Bem%3D54y7Kz%2BAKbHghZRXeMmD7Eonv4j1qn6%3D9A%40mail.gmail.com.
