Thanks very much, Garg ji, for surfacing this *Zingiber* *cernuum VS nimmonii*.
Considering they are different species, we need to see sufficient observations from the field experts; so that we can easily differentiate them. I think they are not easily differentiated visually when we see the plant in the fruiting phase OR with dehisced fruits. Shrikant ji Ingalhalikar's *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second among the three field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats of India, based on flowers, have photos of both plants: *Zingiber cernuum*: page 380 *Zingiber nimmonii*: page 397 My observation of the *Zingiber cernuum* illustrated at FOI, agrees well with the illustration in Shrikant ji's FFOS. My same observation is also illustrated at POWO ... https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:798324-1/images But, all this could be wrong, and corrections will need to be done at all places. Saroj ji, Clicking on the link you provided takes us to a page showing a flower photographed by one of our friends Sushant More. On that same page, clicking on "View more" leads us to a page showing two more photos of flowers, looking different. Sushant's observation is at https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59761452 ... though he must be correct with his ID, the observation still awaits validation. Both observations - Sushant's and mine - need to be validated by experts. Sushant had discussed *Zingiber nimmonii* with me; he said most of the plants of *nimmonii* in Western Ghats are wrongly identified as *cernuum*. I have requested him to write an article or paper about this myth, based on which I can shift IDs of my observations to *nimmonii*. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 6:29 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Everywhere is the same image for Z. cernum which looks wrong. This should > be the correct image for the Z. cernuum ?? > https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiwr4DGv-aBAxUCfnAKHQPZClkQFnoECB8QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.inaturalist.org%2Ftaxa%2F139935-Zingiber-cernuum&usg=AOvVaw25RQUHcFjeu4E0BRCv5A7I&opi=89978449 > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:22 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Tabish ji, >> Zingiber cernuum in FOI >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Curved-Stem%20Ginger.html> >> (images attached) should be a syn. of *Zingiber nimmonii* (J.Graham) >> Dalzell <https://efloraofindia.com/2014/09/01/zingiber-nimmonii/> as per efi >> thread <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/U5SWxAT1Rqc> though >> POWO says both to be different. >> Pl. check. >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFCa7Xn00aaG4%3DqGm5EheGhV7mq%2BsJY%2BofhWkQE02B3g5A%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFCa7Xn00aaG4%3DqGm5EheGhV7mq%2BsJY%2BofhWkQE02B3g5A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC2ZpA0e6fzZEt2AzRz6DbEJSuV9_hsZYUBGVUYtCsRG7Q%40mail.gmail.com.
