Thank you Saroj! These images on the iPlant link agree with my understanding of this species. Tabish ------------------------------------------- <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net The waterhole of flower lovers
On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:56 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919517 > https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919511 > https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919503 > https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919509 > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:06 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is getting more confusing. The leaves of Duhaldea eupatorioides >> should be remotely toothed, as is seen in herbarium image at POWO >> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:962577-1/images>. >> The leaves depicted in the drawing in that paper >> <https://dx.doi.org/10.22244/rheedea.2020.30.02.01> are correctly >> represented (attached here). However the leaves in the photograph of the >> plant, in the same paper, look very different. The leaf-margins of >> Sawmliana's plant do agree with the herbarium images of POWO and the >> drawing attached here. The flowers of Sawmliana's plant do look similar to >> the flowers in Chen's clear image of Duhaldea eupatorioides that I posted >> earlier. For me that is a reasonable reason for considering it as Duhaldea >> eupatorioides. >> Tabish >> ------------------------------------------- >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >> The waterhole of flower lovers >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:23 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> But description in the publication says *Ray florets a few, shortly >>> radiate for *Duhaldea eupatorioides. Also see the image of it in the >>> publication, which is closer to our images in eFI site. >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 22:03 Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Garg ji for the detailed comparison. >>>> But I do not think the images at the eFI link >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2021/06/17/duhaldea-eupatorioides/> >>>> correctly represent the species Duhaldea eupatorioides. The flowers seem to >>>> have almost no ray florets. I am attaching an image of Duhaldea >>>> eupatorioides from this paper >>>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.282.1.7>. >>>> Another paper summarizes Duhaldea eupatorioides as follows: >>>> Notes: This species is similar to D. cuspidata, but differs in much >>>> stouter habit, shorter and stouter petioles, more rigid leaves with much >>>> reticulated nervation beneath and narrower ligules. >>>> Comparing with the images of Duhaldea cuspida >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/21/inula-cuspidata/>, I feel >>>> Sawmliana's images fit the description of Duhaldea eupatorioides reasonably >>>> well. >>>> Tabish >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 1:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Tabish ji, >>>>> I do not think so. >>>>> Pl. see >>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2021/06/17/duhaldea-eupatorioides/ >>>>> >>>>> Pl. see detailed description as given below: >>>>> >>>>> Description from Flora of China >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097799> >>>>> : >>>>> *Synotis cappa* (Buchanan-Hamilton ex D. Don) C. Jeffrey & Y. L. Chen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Duhaldea eupatorioides* (Wall. ex DC.) Anderb. as per The genus >>>>> Duhaldea (Asteraceae) in India >>>>> <https://rheedea.in/storages/submission/file/1479996550.pdf> (2020) >>>>> >>>>> Subshrubs or shrubby herbs, rhizomatous. *Stems erect, to 150 cm >>>>> tall, often flexuous, densely lanate or arachnoid-tomentose, ± glabrescent >>>>> when old,* simple or usually branching above in synflorescences, >>>>> leafless in lower part at anthesis. >>>>> >>>>> *Leaves petiolate or sometimes subsessile; petiole to 10 mm, stout, >>>>> densely tomentose, base often auriculate; *blade broadly to narrowly >>>>> obovate-oblanceolate or oblong-elliptic, 10-28 × 4-8 cm, *papery, >>>>> abaxially densely to sparsely fulvous pubescent on veins and densely to >>>>> sparsely whitish tomentose, *sometimes ± glabrescent, adaxially >>>>> shortly densely to sparsely pubescent and sometimes thinly white arachnoid >>>>> to subglabrous, pinnately veined, *lateral veins 12-28, >>>>> *arcuate-ascending, >>>>> base attenuate, margin finely to coarsely mucronulate-serrate, apically >>>>> acuminate. Upper leaves and leaves of branches lanceolate or >>>>> linear-lanceolate, gradually smaller. >>>>> >>>>> *Capitula radiate, usually numerous, arranged in terminal and axillary >>>>> usually 10-20-headed dense compound corymbs or thyrses;* peduncles >>>>> 5-10 mm, densely tomentose, with a few linear or linear-subulate bracts. >>>>> >>>>> Involucres narrowly campanulate, 5-7 × 2-4 mm, calyculate; bracts of >>>>> calyculus ca. 8, linear-lanceolate, 3-5 mm, apically acuminate; phyllaries >>>>> 8-13, linear-lanceolate, ca. 1 mm wide, herbaceous, densely tomentose, >>>>> margin narrowly scarious, apically obtuse to acute and puberulent. >>>>> >>>>> *Ray florets ca. 8; corolla tube ca. 2.5 mm; lamina yellow, ca. 3.5 × >>>>> 1 mm, 4-veined, 3-denticulate*. Disk florets 11-17; corolla yellow, >>>>> ca. 5 mm, with ca. 1.5 mm tube and funnelform limb; lobes ovate-oblong, >>>>> ca. >>>>> 1.5 mm, apically acute. Anthers ca. 2.5 mm; anther tails slightly >>>>> exceeding >>>>> antheropodia; appendages ovate-oblong; antheropodia rather slender, >>>>> basally >>>>> slightly dilated. Style branches ca. 1 mm, fringed with short papillae, >>>>> terminal tuft not evident. Achenes ca. 2 mm, glabrous. Pappus white, ca. 5 >>>>> mm. >>>>> >>>>> Fl. Oct-Jan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Forest margins, thickets, streamsides, meadows; 1500-2300 m. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Guangxi, Sichuan, Xizang, Yunnan [Bhutan, NE India, Myanmar, Nepal, N >>>>> Thailand]. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stout shrubs, 1–3 m tall. >>>>> *Stem pubescent, terete; branches brownish-purple.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Leaves spirally arranged, rigid, leathery, *shortly petioled; lamina >>>>> elliptic-oblong or lanceolate-acuminate, 5–25 × 1.5–7.5 cm, >>>>> *coriaceous,* *irregularly toothed,* cuneate or rounded at base, *dark >>>>> green above, scabrid, pale green below, pubescent, dense towards nerves, >>>>> sometimes glandular, lateral nerves prominent, shorter, with >>>>> much-reticulated nervation beneath.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Corymbs polycephalous.* Heads terminal or in upper axillary panicles;* >>>>> capitula >>>>> crowned with short peduncles, 0.5–1.0 cm in diam. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Involucral bracts 2–4 × 0.5–1.0 mm long, 4-seriate, lax, imbricate, >>>>> lanceolate to linear-lanceolate, brownish, villous to velutinous, >>>>> sometimes >>>>> glandular at tip. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Ray florets a few, shortly radiate. *Disc florets tubular, 5- >>>>> toothed. Cypselae narrowly obovate–oblong, 1.5– 2.0 × 0.25–0.5 mm, >>>>> yellowish brown, sparsely white pubescent, 8–10-ribbed. Pappus uniseriate, >>>>> bristles 22–24, 4–5 mm long, cream-golden. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Flowering and fruiting from August to February. >>>>> >>>>> Habitat: Grows on rocky slopes, between 1700– 1800 m elevations. >>>>> >>>>> Distribution: Bhutan, China, India, Laos, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, >>>>> Thailand and Vietnam. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 21:27, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it is not Duhaldea cuspidata because of Duhaldea cuspidata >>>>>> has stalked leaves, and the leaves in this plant are virtually >>>>>> stalkless. Synotis >>>>>> cappa appears close but if you look carefully, in Synotis cappa the >>>>>> ray florets are longer than the central disk of the flower-heads. In this >>>>>> plant the ray florets are much shorter than the central disk. >>>>>> I think it is *Duhaldea eupatorioides*. The structure of the >>>>>> inflorescence and the leaves agree with the illustration attached here, >>>>>> and >>>>>> to the description in this paper >>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342591403_The_genus_Duhaldea_Asteraceae_in_India>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tabish >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:02:25 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Pl. see >>>>>>> at *Synotis* *cappa* (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen >>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2020/12/11/synotis-cappa/> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Dec, 2023, 10:55 Mandru Ramesh Chowdary, < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Duhaldea cuspidata. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Dec, 2023, 4:57 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This appears more closer to images and details at *Synotis* >>>>>>>>> *cappa* (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen >>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2020/12/11/synotis-cappa/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 23:29 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:312460] MS Dec,2018/09 Asteraceae >>>>>>>>> (Duhaldea sp.?) for Id. >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Location : Tan, Mizoram >>>>>>>>> Altitude : 1600 - 1,900 m. >>>>>>>>> Date : 06-12-2018 >>>>>>>>> Habit : Shrub >>>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFA7HhGG2YjG6qH8UJNqxsgETyX_wwQ8qs4dhSEK%3DE-ivw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFA7HhGG2YjG6qH8UJNqxsgETyX_wwQ8qs4dhSEK%3DE-ivw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CALNKF_XXKe%2BHUzyc3A6J3HQnYP41-F-b%3DpeHUWY8e3LAGGs6yA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CALNKF_XXKe%2BHUzyc3A6J3HQnYP41-F-b%3DpeHUWY8e3LAGGs6yA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/58f6814a-2b42-489f-9729-024655242e60n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/58f6814a-2b42-489f-9729-024655242e60n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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