It is my pleasure, Tabish ! Thank you. Saroj Kasaju
On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:48 AM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Saroj! These images on the iPlant link agree with my > understanding of this species. > Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:56 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919517 >> https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919511 >> https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919503 >> https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/10919509 >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:06 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This is getting more confusing. The leaves of Duhaldea eupatorioides >>> should be remotely toothed, as is seen in herbarium image at POWO >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:962577-1/images>. >>> The leaves depicted in the drawing in that paper >>> <https://dx.doi.org/10.22244/rheedea.2020.30.02.01> are correctly >>> represented (attached here). However the leaves in the photograph of the >>> plant, in the same paper, look very different. The leaf-margins of >>> Sawmliana's plant do agree with the herbarium images of POWO and the >>> drawing attached here. The flowers of Sawmliana's plant do look similar to >>> the flowers in Chen's clear image of Duhaldea eupatorioides that I posted >>> earlier. For me that is a reasonable reason for considering it as Duhaldea >>> eupatorioides. >>> Tabish >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:23 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> But description in the publication says *Ray florets a few, shortly >>>> radiate for *Duhaldea eupatorioides. Also see the image of it in the >>>> publication, which is closer to our images in eFI site. >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J. M. Garg >>>> >>>> On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 22:03 Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Garg ji for the detailed comparison. >>>>> But I do not think the images at the eFI link >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2021/06/17/duhaldea-eupatorioides/> >>>>> correctly represent the species Duhaldea eupatorioides. The flowers seem >>>>> to >>>>> have almost no ray florets. I am attaching an image of Duhaldea >>>>> eupatorioides from this paper >>>>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.282.1.7>. >>>>> Another paper summarizes Duhaldea eupatorioides as follows: >>>>> Notes: This species is similar to D. cuspidata, but differs in much >>>>> stouter habit, shorter and stouter petioles, more rigid leaves with much >>>>> reticulated nervation beneath and narrower ligules. >>>>> Comparing with the images of Duhaldea cuspida >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/21/inula-cuspidata/>, I feel >>>>> Sawmliana's images fit the description of Duhaldea eupatorioides >>>>> reasonably >>>>> well. >>>>> Tabish >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 1:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Tabish ji, >>>>>> I do not think so. >>>>>> Pl. see >>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2021/06/17/duhaldea-eupatorioides/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Pl. see detailed description as given below: >>>>>> >>>>>> Description from Flora of China >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097799> >>>>>> : >>>>>> *Synotis cappa* (Buchanan-Hamilton ex D. Don) C. Jeffrey & Y. L. Chen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Duhaldea eupatorioides* (Wall. ex DC.) Anderb. as per The genus >>>>>> Duhaldea (Asteraceae) in India >>>>>> <https://rheedea.in/storages/submission/file/1479996550.pdf> (2020) >>>>>> >>>>>> Subshrubs or shrubby herbs, rhizomatous. *Stems erect, to 150 cm >>>>>> tall, often flexuous, densely lanate or arachnoid-tomentose, ± >>>>>> glabrescent >>>>>> when old,* simple or usually branching above in synflorescences, >>>>>> leafless in lower part at anthesis. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Leaves petiolate or sometimes subsessile; petiole to 10 mm, stout, >>>>>> densely tomentose, base often auriculate; *blade broadly to narrowly >>>>>> obovate-oblanceolate or oblong-elliptic, 10-28 × 4-8 cm, *papery, >>>>>> abaxially densely to sparsely fulvous pubescent on veins and densely to >>>>>> sparsely whitish tomentose, *sometimes ± glabrescent, adaxially >>>>>> shortly densely to sparsely pubescent and sometimes thinly white >>>>>> arachnoid >>>>>> to subglabrous, pinnately veined, *lateral veins 12-28, >>>>>> *arcuate-ascending, >>>>>> base attenuate, margin finely to coarsely mucronulate-serrate, apically >>>>>> acuminate. Upper leaves and leaves of branches lanceolate or >>>>>> linear-lanceolate, gradually smaller. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Capitula radiate, usually numerous, arranged in terminal and >>>>>> axillary usually 10-20-headed dense compound corymbs or thyrses;* >>>>>> peduncles >>>>>> 5-10 mm, densely tomentose, with a few linear or linear-subulate bracts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Involucres narrowly campanulate, 5-7 × 2-4 mm, calyculate; bracts of >>>>>> calyculus ca. 8, linear-lanceolate, 3-5 mm, apically acuminate; >>>>>> phyllaries >>>>>> 8-13, linear-lanceolate, ca. 1 mm wide, herbaceous, densely tomentose, >>>>>> margin narrowly scarious, apically obtuse to acute and puberulent. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ray florets ca. 8; corolla tube ca. 2.5 mm; lamina yellow, ca. 3.5 × >>>>>> 1 mm, 4-veined, 3-denticulate*. Disk florets 11-17; corolla yellow, >>>>>> ca. 5 mm, with ca. 1.5 mm tube and funnelform limb; lobes ovate-oblong, >>>>>> ca. >>>>>> 1.5 mm, apically acute. Anthers ca. 2.5 mm; anther tails slightly >>>>>> exceeding >>>>>> antheropodia; appendages ovate-oblong; antheropodia rather slender, >>>>>> basally >>>>>> slightly dilated. Style branches ca. 1 mm, fringed with short papillae, >>>>>> terminal tuft not evident. Achenes ca. 2 mm, glabrous. Pappus white, ca. >>>>>> 5 >>>>>> mm. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fl. Oct-Jan. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Forest margins, thickets, streamsides, meadows; 1500-2300 m. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Guangxi, Sichuan, Xizang, Yunnan [Bhutan, NE India, Myanmar, Nepal, N >>>>>> Thailand]. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stout shrubs, 1–3 m tall. >>>>>> *Stem pubescent, terete; branches brownish-purple.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Leaves spirally arranged, rigid, leathery, *shortly petioled; >>>>>> lamina elliptic-oblong or lanceolate-acuminate, 5–25 × 1.5–7.5 cm, >>>>>> *coriaceous,* *irregularly toothed,* cuneate or rounded at base, *dark >>>>>> green above, scabrid, pale green below, pubescent, dense towards nerves, >>>>>> sometimes glandular, lateral nerves prominent, shorter, with >>>>>> much-reticulated nervation beneath.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Corymbs polycephalous.* Heads terminal or in upper axillary >>>>>> panicles;* capitula crowned with short peduncles, 0.5–1.0 cm in diam. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Involucral bracts 2–4 × 0.5–1.0 mm long, 4-seriate, lax, imbricate, >>>>>> lanceolate to linear-lanceolate, brownish, villous to velutinous, >>>>>> sometimes >>>>>> glandular at tip. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ray florets a few, shortly radiate. *Disc florets tubular, 5- >>>>>> toothed. Cypselae narrowly obovate–oblong, 1.5– 2.0 × 0.25–0.5 mm, >>>>>> yellowish brown, sparsely white pubescent, 8–10-ribbed. Pappus >>>>>> uniseriate, >>>>>> bristles 22–24, 4–5 mm long, cream-golden. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Flowering and fruiting from August to February. >>>>>> >>>>>> Habitat: Grows on rocky slopes, between 1700– 1800 m elevations. >>>>>> >>>>>> Distribution: Bhutan, China, India, Laos, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, >>>>>> Thailand and Vietnam. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 21:27, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it is not Duhaldea cuspidata because of Duhaldea cuspidata >>>>>>> has stalked leaves, and the leaves in this plant are virtually >>>>>>> stalkless. Synotis >>>>>>> cappa appears close but if you look carefully, in Synotis cappa the >>>>>>> ray florets are longer than the central disk of the flower-heads. In >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> plant the ray florets are much shorter than the central disk. >>>>>>> I think it is *Duhaldea eupatorioides*. The structure of the >>>>>>> inflorescence and the leaves agree with the illustration attached here, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> to the description in this paper >>>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342591403_The_genus_Duhaldea_Asteraceae_in_India>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tabish >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:02:25 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pl. see >>>>>>>> at *Synotis* *cappa* (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen >>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2020/12/11/synotis-cappa/> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Dec, 2023, 10:55 Mandru Ramesh Chowdary, < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Duhaldea cuspidata. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Dec, 2023, 4:57 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This appears more closer to images and details at *Synotis* >>>>>>>>>> *cappa* (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen >>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2020/12/11/synotis-cappa/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 23:29 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:312460] MS Dec,2018/09 Asteraceae >>>>>>>>>> (Duhaldea sp.?) for Id. >>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Location : Tan, Mizoram >>>>>>>>>> Altitude : 1600 - 1,900 m. >>>>>>>>>> Date : 06-12-2018 >>>>>>>>>> Habit : Shrub >>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFA7HhGG2YjG6qH8UJNqxsgETyX_wwQ8qs4dhSEK%3DE-ivw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFA7HhGG2YjG6qH8UJNqxsgETyX_wwQ8qs4dhSEK%3DE-ivw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CALNKF_XXKe%2BHUzyc3A6J3HQnYP41-F-b%3DpeHUWY8e3LAGGs6yA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CALNKF_XXKe%2BHUzyc3A6J3HQnYP41-F-b%3DpeHUWY8e3LAGGs6yA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/58f6814a-2b42-489f-9729-024655242e60n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/58f6814a-2b42-489f-9729-024655242e60n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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