Thank you very much dear Viplav ji for the detailed explanation, kind regards, Sam.
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024, 9:25 pm [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Sam ji, for the clarification. Though the fourth image (IMG_4853) > is from a separate individual, it appears to be the same species as the > first three photographs. The number/arrangement of stamens can vary. > > The tooth-like, pointy appendages (staminodes?) are similar in both the > specimens. The angle of the fourth photograph is not ideal to view these > projections but a few are visible nonetheless (marked & attached herewith). > > Best wishes, Viplav > > On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 at 09:25, Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear Viplav ji, >> Thank you very much for the detailed discussions. The first three images >> are of fully opened same flower (IMG 3277, 3276, 3273). Fourth image 4853 >> was captured (available only one image) from nearby plant in 2023, just I >> think it is same as T. idukkiana captured in 7.4.22 from another location. >> >> With kind regards, Sam. >> >> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024, 9:36 pm [email protected], <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> This is very interesting. I suppose the presence of several appendages >>> below the stigmatic lobes in your first photograph (IMG_3277) would qualify >>> this for *Thottea **dalzellii**.* From what I've understood, such >>> appendages are either absent or only occasional in *Thottea siliquosa*. >>> These two species are closely related and I don't have an extensive grasp >>> of all the finer differences between them yet. >>> >>> Are all the flowers in your first batch of photographs from the very >>> same plant? I'm curious about the arrangement of stamens: *4+4+3 *in >>> the first three images as against the more common *3+3+3 *in the last >>> image of the partially-open flower (IMG_4853)*.* >>> >>> Let's wait for Dr. Santhosh's views. >>> >>> Best wishes, Viplav >>> >>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 11:19, Sam Kuzhalanattu < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Saroj ji, >>>> It is more close to Thottea dalzellii. >>>> Thank you, Sam. >>>> >>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, 11:13 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sharing an image >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, 11:13 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sharing more images >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, 10:47 am Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *Thottea siliquosa *(Lam.) Ding Hou ?? >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 10:58 AM Sam Kuzhalanattu < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sharing more images >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, 10:41 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sharing more images >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, 10:38 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sharing more images >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, 10:35 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala >>>>>>>>>>> INDIA >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Altitude: 1500fsl >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Flower date: 15AUG2024, 02.35pm >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy canopied alpine >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Plant habit: big shrub, erect branches, hard woody cylindrical >>>>>>>>>>> stem 07 inches base circumference, rough brownish bark, perennial >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Height: 03 meters >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Leaves: alternate elongated/elliptic acute simple flexible >>>>>>>>>>> glossy aromatic, size upto: 25×8cm >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Flower: axillary buds, 03 tepals, purplish diameter:10mm, >>>>>>>>>>> tomentose, non fragrant >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fruit: lengthy cylindrical beans purplish into brown, ridges >>>>>>>>>>> size:12x0.6cm >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Seed: brown upto 10 nos.ovoid angular >>>>>>>>>>> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDSey9NfrPc8uRgtWiaBZjSUVjviTx26Ar6AC1PMryJNDg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDSey9NfrPc8uRgtWiaBZjSUVjviTx26Ar6AC1PMryJNDg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDTK_gEupT_BEa2WCESwbCPkPh4hf8UTEEb%3DEVuGZST8zQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDTK_gEupT_BEa2WCESwbCPkPh4hf8UTEEb%3DEVuGZST8zQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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