Thank you very much dear Garg ji for forwarding my request for identification, with kind regards, Sam.
On Sun, 1 Sept 2024, 5:11 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > *Thottea siliquosa *(Lam.) Ding Hou ?? > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > It is more close to Thottea dalzellii. > > Thank you, Sam. > This is very interesting. I suppose the presence of several appendages > below the stigmatic lobes in your first photograph (IMG_3277) would qualify > this for *Thottea **dalzellii**.* From what I've understood, such > appendages are either absent or only occasional in *Thottea siliquosa*. > These two species are closely related and I don't have an extensive grasp > of all the finer differences between them yet. > Are all the flowers in your first batch of photographs from the very same > plant? I'm curious about the arrangement of stamens: *4+4+3 *in the first > three images as against the more common *3+3+3 *in the last image of the > partially-open flower (IMG_4853)*.* > Let's wait for Dr. Santhosh's views. > Best wishes, Viplav > > Thank you very much for the detailed discussions. The first three images > are of fully opened same flower (IMG 3277, 3276, 3273). Fourth image 4853 > was captured (available only one image) from nearby plant in 2023, just I > think it is same as T. idukkiana captured in 7.4.22 from another location. > With kind regards, Sam. > Thanks, Sam ji, for the clarification. Though the fourth image (IMG_4853) > is from a separate individual, it appears to be the same species as the > first three photographs. The number/arrangement of stamens can vary. > The tooth-like, pointy appendages (staminodes?) are similar in both the > specimens. The angle of the fourth photograph is not ideal to view these > projections but a few are visible nonetheless (marked & attached herewith). > > Best wishes, Viplav > > > On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 17:00, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> *Thottea siliquosa *(Lam.) Ding Hou ?? >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> It is more close to Thottea dalzellii. >> >> Thank you, Sam. >> This is very interesting. I suppose the presence of several appendages >> below the stigmatic lobes in your first photograph (IMG_3277) would qualify >> this for *Thottea **dalzellii**.* From what I've understood, such >> appendages are either absent or only occasional in *Thottea siliquosa*. >> These two species are closely related and I don't have an extensive grasp >> of all the finer differences between them yet. >> Are all the flowers in your first batch of photographs from the very same >> plant? I'm curious about the arrangement of stamens: *4+4+3 *in the >> first three images as against the more common *3+3+3 *in the last image >> of the partially-open flower (IMG_4853)*.* >> Let's wait for Dr. Santhosh's views. >> Best wishes, Viplav >> >> Thank you very much for the detailed discussions. The first three images >> are of fully opened same flower (IMG 3277, 3276, 3273). Fourth image 4853 >> was captured (available only one image) from nearby plant in 2023, just I >> think it is same as T. idukkiana captured in 7.4.22 from another location. >> With kind regards, Sam. >> Thanks, Sam ji, for the clarification. Though the fourth image (IMG_4853) >> is from a separate individual, it appears to be the same species as the >> first three photographs. The number/arrangement of stamens can vary. >> The tooth-like, pointy appendages (staminodes?) are similar in both the >> specimens. The angle of the fourth photograph is not ideal to view these >> projections but a few are visible nonetheless (marked & attached herewith). >> >> Best wishes, Viplav >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]> >> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 10:36 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:468789] 586 ID wild plant Thottea >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam. >> >> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala INDIA >> >> Altitude: 1500fsl >> >> Flower date: 15AUG2024, 02.35pm >> >> Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy canopied alpine >> >> Plant habit: big shrub, erect branches, hard woody cylindrical stem 07 >> inches base circumference, rough brownish bark, perennial >> >> Height: 03 meters >> >> Leaves: alternate elongated/elliptic acute simple flexible glossy >> aromatic, size upto: 25×8cm >> >> Flower: axillary buds, 03 tepals, purplish diameter:10mm, tomentose, non >> fragrant >> >> Fruit: lengthy cylindrical beans purplish into brown, ridges >> size:12x0.6cm >> >> Seed: brown upto 10 nos.ovoid angular >> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDST0boTKE556qbwfk1yQQfrCks1uojkKCQwZAd__2EnFA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDST0boTKE556qbwfk1yQQfrCks1uojkKCQwZAd__2EnFA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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