On GRIN website, there is one option at the end of the webpage http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?6602
Abbreviations & symbols in GRIN Taxonomy In this GRIN writes, 'hort.' as "hortulanorum (Latin): of gardeners, signifying that the name was first used in gardens and was later published without the name of its originator." Can you please tell me if it relates with cultivated varieties or not. Because I still have doubts about the synonymy of this species. Bauhinia alba Buch.-Ham. should be a distinct species. Why will GRIN not use a proper author citation and write B. alba as B. alba hort.. They cant make such silly mistakes. Regards Pankaj On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > According to GRIN B. alba Hort is synonym of B. variegata (GRIN does not > talk about cultivars) > According to Hortus Third B. alba Buch.-Ham. (as also B. candida Ait.) are > synonyms of B. variegata cv. Candida. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Anand Kumar Bhatt <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> In a lighter vein, as the Bard said: >> "What's in a name? That which we call a rose >> By any other name would smell as sweet." >> ak >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:15 PM, ushaprabha page >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> very interesting. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Once again many thanks for enlightening dear Pankaj ... now laughing at >>>> my stupidity !!!!!!! >>>> Hort. stands for Horticultural variety ... this will remain registered >>>> in my mind. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Sir, >>>>> Hort. is not author citation there, it is pointing towards may be >>>>> horticultural variety, in other words, cultivars. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Dear Pankaj ... was not aware that there are two avataars of Bauhinia >>>>> > alba >>>>> > !!! >>>>> > Referred to link of NPGS / GRIN ... it states Bauhinia alba Hort. as >>>>> > synonym >>>>> > of B. variegata. >>>>> > Many thanks for making me aware that the syntax is not necessarily >>>>> > followed. >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>>> > <[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Dinesh Sir, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I again have one VERY SIMPLE question as usual: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Which alba are you talking of: >>>>> >> Bauhinia alba Hort. (this is a cultivar not a species) >>>>> >> OR >>>>> >> Bauhinia alba Buch.-Ham. ex Wall. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> For your information, there is a species called Bauhinia alba and >>>>> >> then >>>>> >> there is a cultivated variety called Bauhinia variegata 'Alba'. When >>>>> >> following any plant name from GRIN full name is to be checked. >>>>> >> As far as I can make out GRIN is talking about the cultivated >>>>> >> variety >>>>> >> so please do not misinterpret the informations. >>>>> >> I assume more than 80% of people here are not taxonomists so its not >>>>> >> a >>>>> >> big deal as they tend to miss the technical details of it. >>>>> >> Though I may be wrong!! >>>>> >> Regards >>>>> >> Pankaj >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > Dinesh ji got them all right except that it is more appropriately >>>>> >> > cv. >>>>> >> > Candida or B. variegata 'Candida' >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> >> > Retired Associate Professor >>>>> >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> P2140693 ... Bauhinia alba as well as B. variegata var. candida >>>>> >> >> are now >>>>> >> >> synonyms of B. variegata ... >>>>> >> >> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?6602 >>>>> >> >> P2210797 ... certainly not B. purpurea, whose petals are more >>>>> >> >> slender, >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> has only 3 stamens. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Am justifying my thoughts, could be wrong. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Regards. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>>> >> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> P2140693 I thought is Bauhinia alba >>>>> >> >>> P2210797, I thought is Bauhinia purpurea >>>>> >> >>> I may be wrong... >>>>> >> >>> Pankaj >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> >> >>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>> > P2190782.JPG ... Bauhinia variegata >>>>> >> >>> > P2200790.JPG ... Bauhinia variegata >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > P2210797.JPG ... Bauhinia x blakeana >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > P2280852.JPG ... Bauhinia variegata >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > P2140693.JPG ... Bauhinia variegata var. candida >>>>> >> >>> > P2140692.JPG ... Bauhinia variegata var. candida >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > P3110910.JPG ... Bauhinia variegata >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > Regards. >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM, ushaprabha page >>>>> >> >>> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> Different Bauhinias for further id. pl >>>>> >> >>> >> 1&2 flower and it`s tree >>>>> >> >>> >> 5&6 flower and.it`s tree. >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> -- >>>>> >> >>> *********************************************** >>>>> >> >>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>>> >> >>> Research Associate >>>>> >> >>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>>>> >> >>> Department of Habitat Ecology >>>>> >> >>> Wildlife Institute of India >>>>> >> >>> Post Box # 18 >>>>> >> >>> Dehradun - 248001, India >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> *********************************************** >>>>> >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>>> >> Research Associate >>>>> >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>>>> >> Department of Habitat Ecology >>>>> >> Wildlife Institute of India >>>>> >> Post Box # 18 >>>>> >> Dehradun - 248001, India >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *********************************************** >>>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>>> Research Associate >>>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>>>> Department of Habitat Ecology >>>>> Wildlife Institute of India >>>>> Post Box # 18 >>>>> Dehradun - 248001, India >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Anand Kumar Bhatt >> A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road >> Gwalior. 474 005. >> Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780. >> My blogsite is at: >> http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com >> (A NEW BLOG HAS BEEN ADDED ON 3 SEPT 2010.) >> And the photo site: >> www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/ >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Ten most common surnames of Indians: Singh, Kumar, Sharma, Patel, Shah, >> Lal, Gupta, Bhat, Rao, Reddy. Cheers! > > > > -- *********************************************** "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Research Associate Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India Post Box # 18 Dehradun - 248001, India
