Dear Mr. Garg,

All databases including the POWO say *Torenia hookeri *(C.B.Clarke ex
Hook.fil.) A.Pal & M.Chowdhury
is the accepted name and the other is Syn. and the link also :
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://tb.plazi.org/GgServer/html/039C87F1FFBC6271FF33599B40F6FEE4&ved=2ahUKEwis946QluGIAxVLSGwGHeObJGIQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0-zp5Cuu-7P3zjb0w0Rreh
*=*
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:24 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Thank you Mr. Garg !
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:24 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, you appear to be right as per GBIF
>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=11911589> specimen-
>> one
>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fdata.nhm.ac.uk%2Fmedia%2F7d7cd144-ea23-4173-affd-0e17cff03e16>
>> and two
>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvMjczLzcwNy83ODk5NS5qcGc%3D>
>>  and
>> as per link <https://zenodo.org/record/6622841#.Y44MCHZBzIU>.
>>
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 15:08, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mr. Garg ,
>>>
>>> I have posted one image from this post and one from Pokhara on facebook.
>>> One Botanist from Nepal and one from India, Prasad M Govindan have
>>> suggested the ID as Torenia hookeri (C. B. Clarke ex Hook. fil.) A. Pal
>>> & M. Chowdhury,
>>> which looks correct. If so we need to revise all this sp. from efi.
>>> By the way I have, earlier, suggested its syn : *Vandellia hookeri* 
>>> C.B.Clarke
>>> ex Hook.f.
>>> and *Lindernia hookeri* (C.B.Clarke ex Hook.fil.) Wettst.
>>> Please have a look !
>>>
>>>
>>> https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D%26ved%3D2ahUKEwisjd2bp8z7AhUSlNgFHeeTCHkQFnoECCoQAQ%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fzenodo.org%252Frecord%252F6625709%26usg%3DAOvVaw3TGfpte1Gn-5vt0dR1ykvf%26fbclid%3DIwAR2_3EnnvUJNrTFm5c5CYVq8kWTm24yb1nRrjAcAoC6YXqy2h-hKMIdNByw&h=AT0227ct_GYAROT8XCEBjVl6FgZmIFV6hVuLpVkFh6I_QSmiIYj7UFWkd8veLlWECBBs9KpJl3EYUSAGFl-FXTMa5F4bqpBSO7a4nEg330sCiN6T_PLdjeDrNDc6Da8O6xU2UWBPouVoiZtD_b_Krs73
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi8_Miw_837AhWSEbcAHWiYDdkQFnoECBoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecord%2F6622841&usg=AOvVaw0OcnwFTfmJ2nlMdahS-KSa
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:32 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No. Looks different as per POWO specimens- one
>>>> <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/455677.jpg> and two
>>>> <http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/455678.jpg>.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 14:22, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - *Vandellia hookeri* C.B.Clarke ex Hook.f. Syn : *Lindernia
>>>>>    hookeri* (C.B.Clarke ex Hook.fil.) Wettst.
>>>>>    Please validate !
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 1:38 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Appears totally different from images at Torenia violacea
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/torenia/torenia-violacea>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 00:35, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Torenia violacea (Azaola ex Blanco) Pennell ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Torenia violacea (Azaola ex Blanco) Pennell
>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200021293>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess  the description, flowering season and elevation matching
>>>>>>> to Torenia violacea .
>>>>>>> And T. thouarsii not listed in Nepal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need to check this sp. in the FoI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:04 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have checked all species in Checklist of Nepal
>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=133137>
>>>>>>>> These do not match with species already there in efi site at
>>>>>>>> Torenia
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/torenia>‎
>>>>>>>> except for closeness with *Torenia thouarsii* (Cham. & Schltdl.)
>>>>>>>> Kuntze
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/torenia/torenia-thouarsii>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is one species which is not represented so far in efi site: 
>>>>>>>> *Torenia
>>>>>>>> diffusa *D.Don.
>>>>>>>> But its specimens look different from posted plant as per
>>>>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/8127662
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To me matches with existing images at *Torenia thouarsii* (Cham. &
>>>>>>>> Schltdl.) Kuntze
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/torenia/torenia-thouarsii>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pl. also see
>>>>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/7331635
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F753380.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fsweetgum.nybg.org%2Fimages3%2F313%2F611%2Fv-288-00755691.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So in the above circumstances, *Torenia thouarsii* (Cham. &
>>>>>>>> Schltdl.) Kuntze
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/torenia/torenia-thouarsii>
>>>>>>>>  is
>>>>>>>> the best choice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 17:44, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Garg,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is too much hairy. I could not find the match.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 10:38 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pl. check possibility of *Torenia thouarsii* (Cham. & Schltdl.)
>>>>>>>>>> Kuntze
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/torenia/torenia-thouarsii>
>>>>>>>>>>  along
>>>>>>>>>> with other species.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 13:27
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1560 12 Nov 2018
>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Location:  Dahachowk, Switzerland Park, Kathmandu,,Nepal
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 29 September 2018
>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 5600 ft.
>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which *Scrophulariaceae :?? Torenia  ??*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
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>>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of 
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
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>>>>>> Efloraofindia
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>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
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>>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With regards,
>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
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