Nepali Name : भोटे गुलाफ Bhote Gulaaf

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:41 AM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank yoi Chris !
>
> On 17 Jan 2017 09:45, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Chadwell ji.
>>
>> On 16 January 2017 at 22:06, C CHADWELL <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The common xerophytic rose in Ladakh in Rosa webbiana.
>>>
>>> Dickore & Klimes only record this pink-flowered species (plus
>>> some yellow-flowered ones) in Ladakh.   There is a prominent yellow-
>>> flowered rose in the Miyah Nullah, Lahoul during the treks I led there
>>> in the mid-1980s, which I understood to be R.foetida but has been
>>> confused with R.eglanteria.  Will need to check what the current
>>> thinking is?
>>>
>>> I think these images fit satisfactorily this species but one has to be
>>> aware of the possibility of Rosa macrophylla (like Rosa sericea, this
>>> varies a good deal when growing under different conditions).
>>>
>>> Stewart describes R.webbiana as the beautiful, pink, very spiny
>>> xerophytic rose of
>>> N.Pakistan & Ladakh (he does not record it from Kashmir Valley) @
>>> 1500-4050m.
>>> He found it sometimes hard to distinguish from R.macrophylla.  Koelz
>>> stated that
>>> R.webbiana does not spread by suckers but that R.macrophylla does.
>>>
>>> I have seen what I consider to be Rosa macrophylla on the Rohtang
>>> and above Koksar in Lahaul.
>>>
>>> I must admit to wondering if the xerophytic rose I came across in the
>>> Mustang
>>> District of the Upper Kali Gandaki, on my first visit to Nepal was a
>>> form of Rosa
>>> webbiana I was unfamiliar with  - *it was in fact Rosa sericea.*
>>>
>>> The forms of Rosa webbiana in the Kashmir Valley look a bit different to
>>> those
>>> in Ladakh and there is a dwarf variant which I saw on the hill
>>> (mountain) above
>>> Dal Lake, known at one time as Rosa nanothamnus Boulenger but included
>>> with R.webbiana
>>> by some authors, to consider.  Stewart lists this from N.Pakistan &
>>> Kashmir @ 1500-2700m,
>>> saying it is replaced by R.webbiana in the dry inner valleys.
>>>
>>> There are a number of roses both cultivated and perhaps wild, in Kashmir
>>> I am uncertain
>>> about.
>>>
>>> Since a link was provided to Rosa webbiana entries on eFI, I think it
>>> will be worthwhile if
>>> I take a quick look at these and give my INITIAL thoughts.
>>>
>>> I suspect it may be worthwhile me posting what images I have of roses in
>>> the Himalaya.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Chadwell
>>>
>>>
>>> 81 Parlaunt Road
>>> SLOUGH
>>> SL3 8BE
>>> UK
>>>
>>> www.shpa.org.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 16 January 2017, 12:20
>>> *Subject:* Fwd: Rosa webbiana Wall. (accepted name) ???
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>> efi page on Rosa webbiana
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rosaceae/rosa/rosa-webbiana>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: *Saroj Kasaju* <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 3 January 2017 at 20:32
>>> Subject: Rosa webbiana Wall. (accepted name) ???
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Nubra Valley, Leh
>>> Altitude:  10000 ft.
>>> Date: 22 August 2014
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>
>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
>>
>

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