Nepali Name : मसिनो खपटे Masino Khapate

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 10:28 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> I will keep it as *A. longipes* for the time being, as suggested by Tapas
> ji.
>
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:39, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot, Tapas ji
>>
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 20:01, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Garg ji,
>>> Such a report could be based on misidentification only. Without flowers
>>> or fruits we can distinguish A. reticulata, identifiable by the prominent
>>> minor venation of leaves on both surfaces of leaves. But here we can see
>>> obscure minor venation of the leaves, characteristic of A. longipes.
>>> Moreover, true A. reticulata is confined to the Khasi hills and reports
>>> outside Meghalaya might be misidentifications, in my opinion.
>>> The situation can be clarified decisively only when the flowers and
>>> fruits are made available.
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Tapas
>>>
>>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023, 17:42 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Tapas ji.
>>>> There is only one specimen
>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1790333%2Fformat%2Flarge>
>>>> of this in GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/4177419> and it looks
>>>> different to me.
>>>> *Actinodaphne reticulata* Meisn. has been reported in the Checklist of
>>>> Nepal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 17:35, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I beg to differ. I think the samples posted by Saroj ji should belong
>>>>> to Actinodaphne longipes Kosterm. which is possibly unrecorded for Nepal.
>>>>> Anyway, for fomally reporting the occurrence of the species  from Nepal, 
>>>>> we
>>>>> need flowering or fruiting material and herbarium specimens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tapas
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023, 17:02 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 4:55 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also feel more close to Actinodaphne reticulata Meisn. as per GBIF
>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4176958>
>>>>>>> specimens (one
>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303198529LMrNzbkxauXyBV29>,
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm38e5a0276-4972-4d2e-ae19-d881c1561f61>,
>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1500468%3AMICH-V-1500468%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>
>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>> Looks different from Actinodaphne sikkimensis Meisn. as per efi page
>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2018/07/14/actinodaphne-sikkimensis/>
>>>>>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4176753>
>>>>>>> specimens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 at 13:13, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it mentioned Phulchoki also. However, the tree had fallen and
>>>>>>>> I am not sure If I can
>>>>>>>> find another tree to follow up for the flowering and fruiting !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 1:18 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK Tapas Da!
>>>>>>>>> I am not Da but a junior😉!
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 1:15 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Saroj da,
>>>>>>>>>> Would you please read our publication on Actinodaphne and point
>>>>>>>>>> out where we erred?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincere regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Tapas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023, 12:49 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da !
>>>>>>>>>>> A. sikkimensis is not yet recorded from Kathmandu Valley,
>>>>>>>>>>> however, A. reticulata is recorded in
>>>>>>>>>>> many localities in the valley and particularly. Phulchoki !
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 12:46 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The whorled leaves and the terminal perulate buds indeed point
>>>>>>>>>>>> to Actinodaphne. However, in my opinion, A. reticulata is best 
>>>>>>>>>>>> treated as a
>>>>>>>>>>>> rare endemic confined to the Khasi hills in Meghalaya. I think the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>> images should be compared with A. sikkimensis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023, 12:12 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Actinodaphne reticulata *Meisn. ?? Herbarium image from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nearby location.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fidentify.plantnet.org%2Fru%2Fthe-plant-list%2Fspecies%2FActinodaphne%2520longipes%2520Kosterm.%2Fdata&psig=AOvVaw2W3qn5h8fLOEwsMm-T0TOo&ust=1679121425740000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCOCW8PKs4v0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 12:08 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, appears to be from lauraceae.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can it be some Actinodaphne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/01/actinodaphne/> species.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried as per the Checklist of Nepal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=100442>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but could not find any match.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 13:48
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK 3703 15 March 2023
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Dear Members,Location: Kathmandu Valley, NepalDate: 11 March
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2023Altitude: 2418m.Habitat : Wild *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lauraceae ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With regards,
>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>

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