Correct Nepali Names : काठे काउलो Kaathe Kaaulo / माहिलो काउलो Maahilo Kaaulo
Thank you. Saroj Kasaju On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 4:47 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you Tapas Da ! > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 4:45 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Here is the key to the species of *Machilus *in the Indo-Burmese region. >> Please help yourself. I still think that this plant may prove to be a >> distinct species, close to *M. duthiei.* >> >> With regards, >> Tapas >> >> Key to the species >> >> 1a. >> >> Shoots subtended by a ring of bud scale scars; leaves usually crowded >> towards tips of branchlets ……………………………………………………………………………….. 2 >> >> b. >> >> Shoots not subtended by a ring of bud scale scars; leaves usually not >> crowded towards tips of branchlets but evenly spaced >> ………….............................................................. 11 >> >> 2a. >> >> Panicle branches and perianth segments glabrous or sparsely puberulous >> …………… 3 >> >> b. >> >> Panicle branchlets and perianth segments tomentose to villous or densely >> pubescent … 5 >> >> 3a. >> >> Lateral nerves of leaves 14–20 pairs; pedicels 5–10 mm long; fruits >> globose, 2.5–3 cm in diameter ………………………………………………………………… *2. M. clarkeana* >> >> b. >> >> Lateral nerves of leaves 8–15 pairs; pedicels 3–5 mm long; fruits >> ellipsoid to oblong-ellipsoid, 0.7–1.6 × 0.5–1 cm …………………………………………………. 4 >> >> 4a. >> >> Tertiary nerves and minor nervules of leaves inconspicuous on both >> surfaces; panicles 3–5 cm long; fruits *ca *7 × 5 mm ………………………………………… *10. >> M. kingii* >> >> b. >> >> Tertiary nerves of leaves prominent above, faint to prominent beneath; >> minor nervules finely reticulate-pitted and prominent on the upper surface, >> inconspicuous to somewhat prominent beneath; fruits 12–16 × 8–10 mm >> …………………….. *15. M. odoratissima* >> >> 5a. >> >> Leaves mostly cuneate-obovate to oblanceolate; lateral nerves stout, >> strongly raised beneath; fruits 3.5–4.5 cm in diameter ……………………………………. *6. >> M. edulis* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves mostly oblong-elliptic or narrowly so or sometimes obovate to >> oblanceolate (*M. gamblei*); lateral nerves slender, faint to prominent >> but not strongly raised beneath; fruits (unknown in *M. dubia*) up to >> 1.5 (–2.5) cm in diameter ………………………………. 6 >> >> 6a. >> >> Lateral nerves of leaves 14–25 pairs ………………………………………………….. 7 >> >> b. >> >> Lateral nerves of leaves 7–12 pairs ……………………………………………………. 8 >> >> 7a. >> >> Lateral nerves of leaves 14–20 pairs; fruits 0.8–1.2 cm in diameter; >> fruiting pedicels 5–6 mm long …………………………………………………………………. *5. M. >> duthiei* >> >> b. >> >> Lateral nerves of leaves 18–25 pairs; fruits 2–2.5 cm in diameter; >> fruiting pedicels 8–12 mm long ……………………………………………………………… *20. M. >> sharmae* >> >> 8a. >> >> Mature leaves tomentellous beneath; minor nervules conspicuously and >> finely reticulate-areolate on the upper surface …………………………… *22. M. >> tomentosa* >> >> b. >> >> Mature leaves sparsely pubescent to glabrous beneath; minor nervules >> inconspicuous and obscure on the upper surface ………………………………………………………… 9 >> >> 9a. >> >> Leaves 5–6 cm broad, apiculate at apex; panicles up to 16 cm long ………. *4. >> M. dubia* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves 2–4 cm broad, apiculate to acuminate at apex; panicles 3–10 cm >> long ……. 10 >> >> 10a. >> >> Fruits 10–15 mm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 5–10 mm long; leaves often >> turning dark reddish brown on both surfaces on drying ……………………………. *11. >> M. kurzii* >> >> b. >> >> Fruits 8–10 mm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 4–5 mm long; leaves turning >> pale brown or greenish-brown on both surfaces on drying ………………………… *8. >> M. gamblei* >> >> 11a. >> >> Panicle branchlets and perianth segments tomentose to villous or densely >> pubescent.. 12 >> >> b. >> >> Panicle branches and perianth segments glabrous or sparsely puberulous >> ………….. 15 >> >> 12a. >> >> Leaves stiffly coriaceous; lateral nerves faint above; panicles 4–6 mm >> long ………………………………………………………………………….. *18. M. russellii* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves thinly coriaceous; lateral nerves prominent above; panicles 7–28 >> cm long …. 13 >> >> 13a. >> >> Leaves usually unequal and rounded to obtuse at base, rounded to obtuse >> at apex; fruits 1–1.6 (–2) cm in diameter ………............................ >> *14.1. >> M. macrantha *var. *macrantha* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves equal and cuneate to acute at base, acute, apiculate to acuminate >> at apex; fruits 0.6–1 (–1.2) cm in diameter ………………………………………………………….. 14 >> >> 14a. >> >> Leaves apiculate to acuminate at apex; lateral nerves 5–9 pairs; panicle >> branches tomentose to villous …………………………….. *14.2. M. macrantha *var. >> *glaucescens* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves acute to apiculate at apex; lateral nerves 8–12 pairs; panicle >> branches sericeous ……………………………………………………………………………. *19. M. sericea* >> >> 15a. >> >> Leaves unequal and rounded to obtuse at base ………………………………………… 16 >> >> b. >> >> Leaves more or less equal and cuneate to acute at base ……………………………… 17 >> >> 16a. >> >> Leaves 2.5–5.5 cm broad, glossy above, curved downwards along margins, >> acute to apiculate at apex; panicles sparsely branched ………………………. *7. M. >> fruticosa*, *p.p.* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves 5.5–10.5 cm broad, not glossy above, flat along margins, apiculate >> to acuminate at apex; panicles profusely branched …………………………… *21. >> M. sikkimensis* >> >> 17a. >> >> Leaves predominantly obovate, obovate-oblong to obovate-elliptic …….. *12. >> M. listeri* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves predominantly oblong-elliptic to lanceolate-oblong ………………………. 18 >> >> 18a. >> >> Leaves 14–35 × 4–10 cm; minor nervules conspicuously foveolate-reticulate >> on the upper surface ……………………………………………………………. *17. M. robusta* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves 6–17 × 2–5.5 cm; minor nervules inconspicuous to faint or if >> prominent then not foveolate-reticulate on the upper surface >> ……………………………………… 19 >> >> 19a. >> >> Leaves flat along margins ……………………………………………………………. 20 >> >> b. >> >> Leaves curved downwards along margins ……………………………………………. 22 >> >> 20a. >> >> Fruiting tepals reflexed ……………………………………................. *13.* *M. >> lohitensis* >> >> b. >> >> Fruiting tepals clasping the base of fruits, reflexed at apex only >> ……………………. 21 >> >> 21a. >> >> Trees, 10–30 m high; leaves thinly to thickly coriaceous, glabrous on the >> undersurface ……………….. …………………………………………………………. *3.* *M. declinata* >> >> b. >> >> Trees, 4–5 m high; leaves chartaceous, sparsely appressed puberulous on >> the undersurface ……………………………………………………………… *9. M. hedgei* >> >> 22a. >> >> Leaves apiculate to acuminate at apex; fruits ellipsoid, 1.5–2 × 1–1.3 cm >> ……………………………………………………………………… *16. M. parviflora* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves obtuse, acute to apiculate at apex; fruits globose, 0.8–1 cm in >> diameter …….. 23 >> >> 23a. >> >> Leaves 2–2.5 cm broad, cuneate at base; lateral nerves 10–14 pairs … *1. >> M. bhaskarii* >> >> b. >> >> Leaves 2.5–5.5 cm broad, obtuse to rounded or acute at base; lateral >> nerves 6–12 pairs …………………………………………………………………… *7. M. fruticosa*, *p.p.* >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 3:51 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> OK Mr. Garg ! >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 4:02 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Waiting for final words from Tapas ji. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 16:19, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 4:23 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I feel it looks different from GBIF specimens of Machilus edulis, >>>>>> both in leaves and inflorescence arrangement. >>>>>> I still it is more closer to images at >>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/03/machilus-duthiei/ >>>>>> (lateral nerves are also in the range of 14 or so) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 13:46, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I shall follow up Tapas Da! >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:56 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This may be even a new species! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023, 13:40 Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Machilus duthiei has 14-20 pairs of lateral nerves of leaves, >>>>>>>>> which it is not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023, 00:35 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I could not find its distribution in Nepal. >>>>>>>>>> Could it be *Machilus duthiei *King ex Hook.fil. ?? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/l/lauraceae/machilus/machilus-duthiei >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:10 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot, Tapas ji >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Mar, 2023, 20:23 Tapas Chakrabarty, < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is *Machilus edulis *King ex Hook.f. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Tapas >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 8:49 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Tapas ji >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 17:15, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will check. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023, 16:50 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To me appears close to images at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/03/machilus-duthiei/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. check. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 17:28, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May be from lauraceae. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 20:40 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK 3709 21 March 2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 21 March 2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Altitude: 1370m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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