I AGREE THAT I MAY BE WRONG.... 1000 RS for one piece.....good god!!! Is it that high???? Usually the paste of orchid tubers are sticky but I never tasted. What do they say where they got it from??? Pankaj
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> wrote: > Will do. > > I purchased this piece in Rs. 1000 after much bargaining and sharing > knowledge of other herbs available with the vendor. When I presented it to > the Traditional healers using true Dactylorhiza, they asked for more > samples, at least half Kg for experimentation (and confirmation). I > surrendered as it was not possible at that time. > > Hoping for their comments in next visit. > > Any idea about the taste of rhizome? Its aqueuous paste must be sticky > enough both in fresh and dry form. > > regards > > Pankaj Oudhia > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> the tubers of Dactylorhiza are very compact infact they look very much >> like Oberonia leaves with 5 lobes and constricted base, the apex of >> the lobes are pointed. Your tubers were very distant from each other. >> Thats why I said. But yes, from the pic and that two from dried >> specimen I MAY BE WRONG....but my intuition says its not what you >> think it is. >> Can you please send me a good pic on my mail separately. I wont misuse >> it!! >> Regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > When people are ready to buy two fingers then why not the vendors try to >> > sell one rhizome in three pieces? :) >> > >> > I have collected hundreds of samples of it from different corners of >> > India. >> > Will post the pictures after uploading it in my homepage. >> > >> > Yesterday someone from Canada asked for identification. Once I confirm >> > its >> > identity they start writing in their brochure/website that it is >> > certified >> > by Pankaj Oudhia (Even without informing me). Then rates increase. >> > That's >> > why I remain careful. >> > >> > regards >> > >> > Pankaj Oudhia >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I have a bit of doubt, that tuber doesnt look like Dactylorhiza >> >> hatagirea to me Sir!! Please do you have more pics. They have usualy 5 >> >> tubers arranged palmately. >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Please see this link for (socalled) Dactylorhiza rhizome available >> >> > in >> >> > Mela. >> >> > Sindoor is applied on such plant parts for many reasons including to >> >> > hide >> >> > its real identity. >> >> > >> >> > http://pankajoudhia.com/album/main.php?g2_itemId=69917 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > regards >> >> > >> >> > Pankaj Oudhia >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks a lot for the information sir!! >> >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Pankaj Oudhia >> >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Thanks for this valuable information Thousands of Hata Jadi are >> >> >> > present >> >> >> > in >> >> >> > cash lockers of rich Indians due to (Blind) faith that it will >> >> >> > increase >> >> >> > their wealth without any effort. Its collection is banned but >> >> >> > still >> >> >> > it >> >> >> > is >> >> >> > available easily with Tantriks. May be they are using another >> >> >> > similar >> >> >> > looking rhizomes. What are they? Any idea. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Through Andh Sharaddha Nirmulan Samitee in Chhattisgarh we are >> >> >> > awaring >> >> >> > common people to avoid using such herbs and help in conservation >> >> >> > of >> >> >> > rare >> >> >> > species. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > As herb vendors from Himalayas are coming since generations to >> >> >> > Chhattisgarh, >> >> >> > the Healers have much knowledge about Himalayan herbs. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The use of Dacytlorhiza as Aphrodisiac is also creating problem. >> >> >> > Our >> >> >> > population has reached to crores but still we are eager to use >> >> >> > such >> >> >> > herbs. >> >> >> > Many E-books are available through my homepage but there is never >> >> >> > ending >> >> >> > demand of E-book on Extra-ordinary sexual performances. :) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > By the way your explaination about Dactly reminds be of >> >> >> > Dactyloctenium >> >> >> > grass. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > regards >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Pankaj Oudhia >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Pankaj Kumar >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dactylorhiza hatagirea (D.Don) Soó, Nom. Nov. Gen. Dactylorhiza: >> >> >> >> 4 >> >> >> >> (1962). >> >> >> >> Syn: Orchis hatagirea D.Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal.: 23 (1825). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Family: Orchidaceae >> >> >> >> Location: Valley of Flowers National Park, Nanda Devi Biosphere >> >> >> >> Reserve >> >> >> >> Distribution: Mongolia to China - China, Mongolia, Eastern >> >> >> >> Himalaya, >> >> >> >> Nepal, Pakistan, Western Himalaya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Note: The name Dactylorhiza is derived from dactyl like rhizome, >> >> >> >> refering to the finger like tubers of this plant. the species >> >> >> >> epithet, >> >> >> >> hatagirea refers to HATTA JADI, refering to hand like jadi or the >> >> >> >> root. So basically, generic and species epithet means the same >> >> >> >> thing, >> >> >> >> just the origin is different. This is a highly medicinal plant.. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> *********************************************** >> >> >> >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> >> >> Research Associate >> >> >> >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> >> >> >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> >> >> >> Wildlife Institute of India >> >> >> >> Post Box # 18 >> >> >> >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *********************************************** >> >> >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> >> Research Associate >> >> >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> >> >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> >> >> Wildlife Institute of India >> >> >> Post Box # 18 >> >> >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *********************************************** >> >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> Research Associate >> >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> >> Wildlife Institute of India >> >> Post Box # 18 >> >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Research Associate >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> Wildlife Institute of India >> Post Box # 18 >> Dehradun - 248001, India > > -- *********************************************** "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Research Associate Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India Post Box # 18 Dehradun - 248001, India
