*Aphanamixis polystachya *(Wall.) R.Parker Thank you Saroj Kasaju
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, April 30, 2021 at 9:34:15 PM UTC+5:45 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:183661] ID of climber To: JM Garg <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>, efloraofindia <[email protected]> At first, I did think that too, Sir. Then I thought, "if this is *U. hamiltonii* then what is the other one at - https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/zWXWqY6TV24/m/XGFigk_f65cJ?"; Whatever little part of the leaf seen in the submitted picture, it seems to be *obovate*. Can this monocarps be called having tomentose epicarp? At most, I think those are pubescence. Is there much difference between this submitted picture and the first one at "inaturalist (they too always update those ids, like us)" - https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/960017-Uvaria-concava/browse_photos? Thank you. Best regards, Surajit Koley On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 17:46, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: Can it be Uvaria hamiltonii as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3154362> - specimens one <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303797685UYjl6u0kNCPO198B> , two <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1770631%2Fformat%2Flarge> and three <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1443509695466Hqigth1MvsLVpYTw> and four <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303774929ntdVD65xxh7w3O1L> ? To me appears some possibility. On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 17:42, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: I think looks different from Uvaria concava as per ATRP <http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Uvaria_concava.htm> iNaturalist <https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/960017-Uvaria-concava/browse_photos> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/3154255> Also looks different from *Uvaria argentea* Bl. var. *bracteata *as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3156920>- specimen <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Flive.staticflickr.com%2F65535%2F48262354742_3ff3cc3104_o_d.jpg> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 19:33, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: The problem here is we do ot have entire leaf picture for character evaluation and other details like fruit size or view of the monocarps in different angles. .I have two suggestions here - 1. *Uvaria argentea* Bl. var. *bracteata* : It is *U. bracteata* Roxb. of FLORA INDICA and Flora of British India. In Roxburgh's own words,* "berries ..... when ripe of a rich yellow."* But the type species, i.e., *U. argentea var. argentea, which is restricted to peninsular Malaysia *features red or purple monocarps 2. *Uvaria concava* Teijsm. & Binn. : It is *U. narum* var. *macrophylla* & *U. lurida* of Flora of British India. *monocarps green turning orange or yellow at maturity..... young stipe and monocarp with sparse indument, later subglabrous.* *So, I think the species in this thread is U. concava.* *Endnote : there is ample scope for mis-identification, because not much, or even adequate data is available from the submitted picture in this thread. * Thank you. Best regards, Surajit Koley On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 21:44, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: Please, pardon me, Sawmliana ji, for mis-spelling your name. Thank you. Best regards, Surajit Koley On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 21:39, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: Sir, to my understanding, typical *Uvaria concava* fruit would look like the one we have in our database - https://08511630493324166816.googlegroups.com/attach/bcba2a177696c320/DSC_0248-800.jpg?part=0.2&view=1&vt=ANaJVrGkQ4adOr3feT3MsZLoO_s5KR7Ai5HSCcveleC3RRP198esRVtL_2-H4DmCS7XLvrGJrPzwdbpS905ySpCroRHtpaliAyJGXGug5ng2B3wyJiGYplI @ https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/annonaceae/uvaria/uvaria-concava Whereas the fruit (monocarps) in this discussion is neither glabrous, nor have small apicules. *So, I have much doubt.* Only favourable points are the *orange colour* of the monocarps and the "variation in floral and fruit characters" mentioned in the said 'paper'. *I will check the entire annonaceae and let you know.* Meanwhile, it would be very helpful if Swamliana ji could provide us his opinion and/or more detail. Thank you. Best regards, Surajit Koley On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 14:57, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks, Surajit ji. Pl. see if you can nail it down, from the paper I have sent you. On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 21:42, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: Please check if it can be *Uvaria concava* of the* "Uvaria Paper" previously mentioned*, Thank you. Best regards, Surajit Koley On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 17:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 11:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Sawmliana ji, Could you get it identified ? ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 at 16:51 Subject: [efloraofindia:183661] ID of climber To: <[email protected]> Dear sirs, I am attaching herewith a photo of climber for your id. The fruits are edible. Place of collection : Tuirial, Aizawl dist., Mizoram. Date : Unknown. Latitude : ca. 200 - 900 m. 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