Oldenlandia herbacea may be correct identity -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you very much Shrikant ji ... (your morning response was addressed to > me alone ... thus did not get to EOI). > > As responded to you ... > ... unfortunately, it did not occur to me then to take photo of the habitat > ... these are the only two photographs. > Supporting reason: it was drizzling !!! > > Recollecting, it was patch of grassy area with about 2 - 6 inch high plants > spread over approximately 30 - 50 sq m. > > The GPS co-ordinates ... fairly precise: 18°42'32.71"N, 73°23'20.34"E ± 1 - > 2 seconds > The altitude 791 m asl could be ± 10 m (measured with Google Earth) > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:18 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Like several earlier replies my reply to this post of today morning >> seems misplaced. This may be Hedyotis herbacea looking at tiny white >> fkowers on long slender prduncles. Habit picture would confirm the ID. >> Regards, Shrikant >> >> On Oct 1, 12:35 pm, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Gurcharan ji ... am getting what you are pointing. >> > Just a naive query ... what if the fruiting has begun ? ... would the >> sepals >> > then look like arising from the fruit ? >> > >> > Regards. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > Dinesh ji >> > > I had almost decided upon O. corymbosa, what has been worrying me >> right >> > > from the beginning is the nature of calyx. Four calyx lobes (or >> sepals) seem >> > > to be arising from what does not look like calyx tube, but rather >> almost of >> > > same colour (slightly lighter) as colour. Frankly I have never seen >> this >> > > before, and not able to comprehend. >> > >> > > -- >> > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > > Retired Associate Professor >> > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> > >> > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> ... here are what could be compiled: >> > >> > >> *Dentella repens* (syn. *Oldenlandia repens*) ... RULING OUT >> > >> *Neanotis lancifolia* (syn. *Hedyotis lancifolia, Oldenlandia >> > >> lancifolia*) ... RULING OUT >> > >> *Oldenlandia corymbosa* (syn. *Hedyotis corymbosa*) ... BRIGHT CHANCE >> > >> *Oldenlandia herbacea* (syn. *Hedyotis herbacea*) ... BRIGHT CHANCE >> > >> *Oldenlandia scabrida* ... RULING OUT >> > >> > >> Thank you very much, Gurcharan ji for narrowing down the ID. >> > >> > >> Regards. >> > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> > >>> Could you please let me know which species of oldenlandia grow in >> that >> > >>> area (or say Maharashtra). >> > >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > >>> Retired Associate Professor >> > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> > >> > >>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Dinesh Valke < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >>>> Well Gurcharan ji ... Swertia flowers at Panchagani made me think >> of >> > >>>> this post ... led me to believe that these tiny flowers (could be >> half the >> > >>>> size compared to those of Panchagani) would be indeed Swertia .. >> smaller in >> > >>>> size owing to some reasons not known to me !!! >> > >> > >>>> Now that they are not Swertia, the search for its identity is on !! >> > >>>> makes me more curious, too. >> > >>>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for the clarity. >> > >> > >>>> Regards. >> > >> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> Dinesh ji >> > >>>>> Now that you have uploaded photographs of Swertia minor, you would >> > >>>>> agree it is not. >> > >> > >>>>> Could you kindly some photographs with fruit of this plant. >> > >> > >>>>> -- >> > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >> > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> > >> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >>>>>> dinesh ji >> > >>>>>> Can't ignore inferior ovary. To me this is one of best taken >> > >>>>>> photographs: allows you to see perfect side view of tiny flower. >> It is >> > >>>>>> unfortunate we are not able to get the right identity. >> > >> > >>>>>> In no case these photographs qualify for BLURRED POST.......my >> view. >> > >> > >>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >> > >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> > >> > >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Dinesh Valke < >> > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>>>> ... e u r e k a ... *Swertia minor*. >> > >> > >>>>>>> Regards. >> > >> > >>>>>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Satish Phadke < >> > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>>>>> Dinesh ji >> > >>>>>>>> I agree with you. We have been responding to many many >> photographs >> > >>>>>>>> which were inadequate in showing characters. I understand that >> the idea is >> > >>>>>>>> not to discourage but to encourage the members to get more >> informative >> > >>>>>>>> photographs of the species. >> > >>>>>>>> Dr Phadke >> > >> > >>>>>>>> On 15 May 2010 19:51, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>>>>>> ... the dilemma !!! >> > >>>>>>>>> Wanted the ID, but no helpful photographs !! >> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Dear friends, in such cases, where the quest for ID becomes >> > >>>>>>>>> difficult for want of basic data, shall we decide to close the >> thread, aptly >> > >>>>>>>>> calling it BLURRED POST. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Regards. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >> > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear members >> > >>>>>>>>>> Kindly note opposite leaves, small but distinct corolla tube >> > >>>>>>>>>> between calyx lobes (which arise higher up) and free part of >> corolla. All >> > >>>>>>>>>> this points to Rubiaceae, and the member which is supposed to >> be easily >> > >>>>>>>>>> confused with Mollugo is Oldenlandia corymbosa. Please >> consider this. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > >>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >> > >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >>>>>>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Joshi Pankaj < >> > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear All, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Not Molluginaceae. This is member of Portulaceae. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Please check with good photo. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************** >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jr. Scientist >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Gujarat: 370 001 (India) >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cell: +91 94269 49523 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Optional E-mail: [email protected] >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************** >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>; tanay bose < >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sat, 15 May, 2010 11:11:48 AM >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:34810] DV - 02OCT09 - 1112 :: >> > >>>>>>>>>>> tiny herb at Lion's Point, Lonavala. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Earlier relevant feedback: >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> “Can this be *any species of Mollugo sp* [Molluginaceae]? >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Tanay” >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 28 March 2010 20:12 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:30969] DV - 02OCT09 - 1112 :: tiny >> herb >> > >>>>>>>>>>> at Lion's Point, Lonavala. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Only two photographs; may not be sufficient for ID. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hoping to get ID. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Date/Time* : October 2, 2009 at 11.12am IST >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Location Place* : near Lion's Point, Lonavala ... >> *Altitude* : >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 791 m ... *GPS* : 18°42'32.71"N, 73°23'20.34"E >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Habitat* : wild ... *Type* : high altitude grassland >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Plant Habit* : small herb ... *Height *: about 6 - 8 in ... >> * >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Length* : - not climber - >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Leaves Type *: simple, oppositely arranged, entire margin >> ... * >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Shape* : narrow linear ? ... *Size* : 5 - 7 mm x 2 - 2.5 mm >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type* : solitary ... *Size* : - >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Flowers Size* : about 4 mm ... *Colour* : white ... *Calyx* >> : >> > >>>>>>>>>>> alternates with petals ? ... *Bracts* : do not know >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Fruits Type* : do not know ... *Shape *: do not know ... >> *Size*: do not know ... >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Seeds* : do not know >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Other Info* : >> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Fragrance* : did not smell ... *Pollinator* : do not know >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ... *Uses* : do not know >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >> <indiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> . >> > >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >> > >>>>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) >> > >>>>>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & >> place-wise): >> > >>>>>>>>>>>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg >> > >>>>>>>>>>> For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- >> > >> > ... >> > >> > read more »- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > >
