Thank you, Saroj ji, for the updated id. With Regards,
Surajit Koley On Wed, 9 Jul, 2025, 2:39 pm Saroj Kumar Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: > Please check *Crinum ×amabile *Donn ex Ker Gawl. > > Thank you > Saroj Kasaju > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, October 26, 2012 at 9:53:36 PM UTC+5:45 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:136254] incredible Crinum from Hooghly > To: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Sir, > > Thank you very much for elaborating on three species of *Crinum*. Since i > do not have bulb size and segment size i understand that this species > should better be left as *Crinum* sp. only. Moreover i am not sure if > this plant is fragrant or not, even if it is fragrant surely would be > mildly. > > Regards, > > surajit > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Surajit ji > Incidentally I have Bailey, Manual of Cultivated plants (a standard > reference for cultivated plants) which treats Crinum asiaticum, C. amabile > and C. augustum as three distinct species. Former is differentiated by > white perianth and latter two by perianth red at least on outside. The > author admits C. augustum as "doubtfully specifically distinct from A. > amabile" differing in larger bulbs (up to 15 cm in diam.), less fragrant, > and broader perianth segments (12-20 mm broad) as against smaller bulb, > highly fragrant flowers and 10-12 mm broad segments. C. asiaticum is > considered as a very variable species with bulb 10-13 cm in diam, flowers > highly fragrant, white, with 10-12 mm broad segments. > Perhaps we should avoid consulting The Plant List for cases where > better options like GRIN are available. The Plant List records all the > three as distinct species, but interestingly considers A. amabile var. > augustum (Roxb. ex Ker Gawl.) Ker Gawl. as synonym of C. asiaticum var. > asiaticum,, but if you look at their source (World Checklist) the citation > is C. augustum Roxb. (which The Plant List treats as independent species) > as synonym of C. amabile. > It would be good to know whether our plants fits C. amabile or C. > augustum on the basis of bulb size and perianth width, and wait for some > recent publication which treats them better. GRIN considers C. amabile as > synonym of C. asiaticum, whereas Kew Worl Check List treats C. amabile as > independant species with C. augustum as its synonym. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Sir, > > If you click the following two google search - > > 1. *Crinum augustum* = > > https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Crinum+augustum&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=u-eJUNzlBqmWiQf-oYGgCA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1517&bih=710 > 2. *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* = > > https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Crinum+asiaticum+var.+asiaticum&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6umJUJyPAbGTiQfR0ICgAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1517&bih=710 > > the first link gives you majority pinkish white flower while the 2nd gives > majority white flowers! > > According to The Plant List - > > 1. *Crinum augustum* Roxb. ex Ker Gawl. is a synonym of *Crinum > asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-303331> > 2. *Crinum amabile* var. *augustum* (Roxb. ex Ker Gawl.) Ker Gawl. is > a synonym of *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-309972> > 3. *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* is an accepted name > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-310841> > > GRIN list of *Crinum* = > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?3075 > > NTBG has some description = > http://www.ntbg.org/plants/plant_details.php?plantid=11808 > Dave's Garden = http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/90355/#b > > This is an ornamental herb, *Crinum* sp., in a private compound beside a > pond, recorded on 5/10/2012 in Hooghly. > > Thank you & Regards, > > surajit > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAMV_mc3jnsxakSB8vOOMwkW6_nfV_Fv8OqXqNG6ASGRA%2Bf5b1w%40mail.gmail.com.
