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Saroj Kasaju On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 1:16 PM Mahbuba Sultana <[email protected]> wrote: > Fresh fruit with leaves. pls see > > On Thursday, September 11, 2025 at 4:23:44 PM UTC+6 Mahbuba Sultana wrote: > >> Pls , Help identify >> >> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 9:49:15 PM UTC+6 surajit koley wrote: >> >>> Sir, >>> >>> In the type species of *U. argentea*, the "REVISION" describes : >>> "monocarps numerous, red or purple ..... *glabrous*," >>> In case of *U. argentea* var. *bracteata*, the "REVISION" describes : >>> "differs from the type ..... petals, and the leaves .... obovate." *(No >>> difference in monocarps noted in the 'revision')*. >>> >>> *Monocarps in Sawmliana ji's picture are densely tomentose* >>> So, I do not think it can be *U. argentea* var. *bracteata*. >>> >>> On the other hand, the description in the "revision" of *U. hamiltonii* >>> monocarps >>> : "monocarps 10-14, gloose to oblong ..... green turning red .... outer >>> surface ferrugino-tomentose .... >>> So, I think this is the plant what I see in FoI - >>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Eastern%20Uvaria.html >>> >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Best regards, >>> Surajit Koley >>> >>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 17:49, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Can it be *Uvaria argentea* Bl. var. *bracteata *as per GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3156920>- specimen >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Flive.staticflickr.com%2F65535%2F48262354742_3ff3cc3104_o_d.jpg> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 16:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>>> What is worrying me is the colour of the fruit. >>>>> I could not find any mention in the descriptions in the revision as >>>>> well as in FBI >>>>> <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/uvaria-hamiltonii-hookf-thomson-2> >>>>> and >>>>> also in the GBIF >>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3154362> - >>>>> specimens one >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303797685UYjl6u0kNCPO198B>, >>>>> two >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1770631%2Fformat%2Flarge> >>>>> and three >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1443509695466Hqigth1MvsLVpYTw> >>>>> and >>>>> four >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303774929ntdVD65xxh7w3O1L> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 18:28, surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is *Uvaria hamiltonii H.f. & T (var, hamiltonii)*. >>>>>> >>>>>> One problem area is that the Paper, "A revised Taxonomy for Uvaria >>>>>> (Annonaceae)in Continental Asia" doesn't recognise its presence in that >>>>>> region. But Sawmliana ji has taken care of it - >>>>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Eastern%20Uvaria.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 20:13, surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sir, I downloaded the "paper", from BioOne >>>>>>> <https://bioone.org/journals/australian-systematic-botany/volume-31/issue-4/SB17051/A-revised-taxonomy-for-Uvaria-Annonaceae-in-continental-Asia/10.1071/SB17051.short#:~:text=A%20revised%20taxonomy%20for%20Uvaria%20(Annonaceae)%20in%20continental%20Asia&text=This%20paper%20presents%20a%20revision%20of%20Uvaria%20L.&text=Thirty%2Dthree%20species%20and%20species,Cyathostemma%20Griff.%2C%20Ellipeia%20Hook.>,(open >>>>>>> access), about a month ago and already flipped itrs pages, but it didn't >>>>>>> help. >>>>>>> because - >>>>>>> *Identification KEY starts with flower character*, which is not >>>>>>> available in this discussion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would request Swamliana ji to provide details like leaf and fruit >>>>>>> size, if possible >>>>>>> or, alternatively >>>>>>> request him to go through the paper and decide himself. >>>>>>> Another literature might (or might not) help - >>>>>>> https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/85005#page/3/mode/1up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 14:05, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit. >>>>>>>> Sending you the paper separately only, in case you can nail down >>>>>>>> the id. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 20:55, surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It looks similar to *Uvaria macrophylla* Roxb., at Hong Kong >>>>>>>>> herbarium - https://www.herbarium.gov.hk/subpages.aspx?id=8908. >>>>>>>>> The indumentum of epicarp can be hairy, as per Flora of China - >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200008601 >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But, Flora of "British India" and "Bengal Plats", both include its >>>>>>>>> distribution in Bangladesh (Silhet, Chittagong). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Most importantly*, the treatment of the taxon is different in >>>>>>>>> the paper titled, "A revised taxonomy for *Uvaria* (Annonaceae) >>>>>>>>> in continental Asia". >>>>>>>>> <https://bioone.org/journals/australian-systematic-botany/volume-31/issue-4/SB17051/A-revised-taxonomy-for-Uvaria-Annonaceae-in-continental-Asia/10.1071/SB17051.short#:~:text=A%20revised%20taxonomy%20for%20Uvaria%20(Annonaceae)%20in%20continental%20Asia&text=This%20paper%20presents%20a%20revision%20of%20Uvaria%20L.&text=Thirty%2Dthree%20species%20and%20species,Cyathostemma%20Griff.%2C%20Ellipeia%20Hook.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, before any species determination one needs to examine >>>>>>>>> thoroughly each and every morphological character of the submitted >>>>>>>>> species. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 11:45, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then who identified it as Uvaria ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 19:01, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Sawmliana ji >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr, 2021, 6:52 pm M Sawmliana, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Uvaria is not recorded/listed in Flora of Mizoram >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr, 2021, 5:37 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> What are species listed in your area? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 16:11, M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uvaria hamiltonii ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug, 2014, 6:32 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 27 July 2014 06:10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:195016] Uvaria sp. ? for ID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Mizoram >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Large climber >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Growing wild in the forests. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note : Fruit edible. 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