Hello Ron, Thank you so much for correcting me. I am a lay person and not a botanist. It is possible that I have made a mistake. However, if this is Ipomoea alba, then the earlier posting also should be Ipomea alba. They are from the same vine or at least, I got both the pictures from the same spot. The pods and seeds though are from a few feet away. Once again, other than assuring you that it is from the same spot, I can not be sure that it is the same vine because, they are so much intertwined that it is extremely difficult to find the main stem. In any case, I think my mistake should be discussed in the general with other members too so that the necessary corrections are made. Regards Yazdy.
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Yadzy, > > Thank you for the latest set of photos which indicate Ipomoea alba > which although is a fragrant night bloomer is quite different than Rivea > hypocrateriformis in a number of aspects. e.g., the fruit of Rivea > hypocrateriformis is always erect while the fruit of Ipomoea alba > reflexes...the sepals of I.alba display some horizontal projection while the > sepals of R,hypocrateriformis does not... > > I did respond to the thread but will add some links in this message as well > > You had previously posted Ipomoea alba as Rivea hypocrateriformis in the > thread here > > Yazdy Palia = Ipomoea alba > Balkar Singh = Rivea hypocrateriformis > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/58c5c79962bd2446/b8fb081ba9716750?hl=en > > > You apparently have posted Rivea hypocrateriformis before here : > > Yazdy Palia = Rivea hypocrateriformis > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/f3524225ecf8b183/7c568e846113880d?hl=en > Can you access the plant you photographed in the above photo (?) > > There is the possibility that you may have several different night bloomers > growing near each other... > > I've been trying to locate a few seeds of Rivea hypocrateriformis for > several years but no one seems to be able to locate the correct plant at the > right time for seed collection. > > Thanks for your contributions... > > regards, > > Ron > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Yazdy Palia > Date: Friday, November 26, 2010 1:04 am > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:55118] Fwd: Rivea hypocrateriformis (Common > Night Glory) > To: Pankaj Kumar > Cc: "J.M. Garg" , efloraofindia , Ron_Convolvulaceae > >> Dear Friends, >> Attaching pictures of seeds, pods, flower, buds and vine of Rivea >> hypocrateriformims. >> Regards >> Yazdy. >> >> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Pankaj Kumar >> wrote: >> > Rivea hypocrateriformis Choisy Mém. Soc. Phys. Genève vi. 408 >> (Conv.> Or. 26), (1833) >> > >> > Type: Sine collector; sine no. [G00134857] >> > >> > Regards >> > Pankaj >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Yazdy Palia >> wrote: >> >> Dear Garg Ji, >> >> I think it is Rivae hypocrateriformis. The buds you see on >> the bottom >> >> left of the bloom in the second picture is actually the pod >> of the >> >> seeds. I will try to upload the picture of the seeds >> tomorrow. The >> >> climber in the picture is almost bare of leaves, whereas the >> one at my >> >> place is lush green. Inside the pod you normally find 3 seeds (not >> >> very sure about the numbers) >> >> Regards >> >> Yazdy. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 2:54 PM, J.M. Garg >> wrote: >> >>> A reply: >> >>> "Hello, >> >>> I see that there is a mixturte of 2 completelt different >> species>>> in the photos above. >> >>> The bloom is ipomoea obscura apparently climbing in the moonflower >> >>> shrub. >> >>> The 2 flowerbuds behind the open flower have a completely >> different>>> structure and most noticeably have the tube of a >> night blooming >> >>> flower. >> >>> I think the photo shows both Ipomoea obscura and Rivae >> >>> hypocrateriformis. >> >>> I have been searching for a few seeds of Rivea >> hypocrateriformis for >> >>> some years and if there was anyway you might be able to >> assist me , I >> >>> would be most grateful. >> >>> regards, >> >>> Ron" >> >>> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>> From: J.M. Garg >> >>> Date: 3 April 2009 08:10 >> >>> Subject: Rivea hypocrateriformis (Common Night Glory) >> >>> To: indiantreepix >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hope my id is correct. On 7/2/09 in Hyderabad, AP. >> >>> -- >> >>> With regards, >> >>> J.M.Garg >> >>> "We often ignore the beauty around us" >> >>> Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & >> >>> Fauna:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> >>> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join >> Google e-group >> >>> (Indiantreepix) >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> With regards, >> >>> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) >> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a >> thousand species & >> >>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> >>> alphabetically & place-wise): >> >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can >> also use them >> >>> for free as per liberal licensing conditions attached with >> each image. >> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >> Indian Flora, >> >>> please visit/ join our Google e-group- >> >>> Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix >> (more than 1420 >> >>> members & 52,000 messages on 26/10/10 & with a database of >> around 4200 >> >>> species on 30/9/10) >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *********************************************** >> > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> > >> > >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> > Research Associate >> > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> > Department of Habitat Ecology >> > Wildlife Institute of India >> > Post Box # 18 >> > Dehradun - 248001, India >> > >>
