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On 14 January 2011 16:33, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> wrote: > Dr. Pankaj interesting. I am not the only follower of Dr. Almeida so many > in Mah. and elsewhere will be happy. I have never ever referred > links, everyone on efloraofindia knows the pitfalls, nothing new that you > have brought out. I only refer to Kew and one or two other well referred > sources. > > By the way do you remember how you misguided everyone for the Tamarind tree > scientific name by refering to a yahoo source some time back, when I had > posted the same? Shocking isn't it? I had actually believed you till > another expert brought the wrong info. to notice. That is the reason I > asked you to cite your source for the Alstonia scholaris epithet. As simple > as that. Can you cite your sourcee now? But well when you want to make an > issue out of simple questions nobody can help it. And on top of that you > make insinuations and call people ignorant, you insult respected elders , > you ban young individuals like Tanay from responding to you? How does one > function with you? . > > regards, > Rashida. > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Many websites, have this bad habit of copying and pasting informations >> from other sites or links and if there is a wrong information on one >> site then it gets transfered to another and so on, at the end, what we >> get is wrong information on most of the sites. Its not easy for anyone >> to choose which is wrong and which is right. Hence most of the links >> and websites cant be reliable. >> >> To give you an example, I am just searching for one orchid on google, >> Cymbidium aloifolium. This plant name is randomly selected. >> I will select the 20 links from top on google and check if they are >> correct!! >> >> 1 http://orchids.wikia.com/wiki/Cymbidium_aloifolium - CORRECT >> 2 http://www.orchidspecies.com/cymaloeifolium.htm - INCORRECT >> 3 http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/60070/ - INCORRECT >> 4 http://www.orchids.co.in/orchid-plant/cymbidium-aloifolium.shtm - IF >> THATS THE IMAGE, THEN ITS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT >> 5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymbidium_aloifolium - INCORRECT >> 6 >> http://www.orchidboard.com/community/cymbidium-alliance/37102-cymbidium-aloifolium.html >> - NO IMAGE OR DESCRIPTION >> 7 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cymbidium_aloifolium - >> MULTIPLE PICTURES ALL OF WHICH SEEMS TO BE INCORRECT >> 8 >> http://www.kidsfortigers.org/index.php?view=detail&id=16&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=89 >> - INCORRECT >> 9 http://www.sborchid.com/plantdisplay.php?ocode=CYM000010 - THEY HAVE >> GIVEN INCORRECT NAME FOR A CORRECT PLANT >> 10 >> http://www.globinmed.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62792:cymbidium-aloifolium-l-sw&catid=367:c >> - INCORRECT >> 11 >> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Aloe%20Leaf%20Cymbidium.html >> - CORRECT, IDENTIFIED BY ME >> 12 http://www.flickr.com/photos/b_inxee/4550849819/ - INCORRECT, MAY >> BE AN ALBINO OF CORRECT PLANT >> 13 http://orchidscare.blogspot.com/2010/12/cymbidium-aloifolium.html - >> INCORRECT >> 14 http://www.orchidsonline.com.au/node/3785 - INCORRECT >> 15 >> http://www.orchisasia.org/genre/Cymbidium/Cymbidium%20aloifolium/index.html >> - DOUBTFUL, SEEMS TO BE INCORRECT >> 16. http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=117670&flora_id=2 >> - INCORRECT >> 17 >> http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchidtalk/orchids-other-genera-bloom/19980-cymbidium-aloifolium.html >> - INCORRECT >> 18 >> http://b-and-t-world-seeds.com/carth.asp?species=Cymbidium%20aloifolium&sref=6488 >> - INCORRECT >> 19 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies/message/2939 - NO >> IMAGES OR DESCRIPTION >> 20 http://www.jstor.org/stable/4110039 - INCORRECT (THIS WAS MOST >> UNEXPECTED FOR ME!!) >> >> CORRECT - 2; INCORRECT - 16; NOT HELPFUL - 2 >> So 80% of the links have incorrect identification including JSTOR and >> EFLORA. >> >> Claiming that 100 of sites on internet and may even some reference >> books, designate this plant as Cymbidium aloifolium doesnt make this >> plant Cymbidium aloifolium. For me in one word such an explanation is >> RIDICULOUS. The main issue is, some one misidentified the plant and >> then described the incorrect plant as Cymbidium aloifolium. Ironically >> it has been followed in eflora and other links, just because its >> started with copying and pasting the informations from here and there. >> >> Now the big time question, where to check ? >> >> Cymbidium aloifolium (L.) Sw. in Nov. Act. Soc. Sci. Ups. 6: 73 (1799); >> >> Type: Illustration in Rheede, Hort. Malab. t. 8 (1703) (Lectotype). Plate >> 26A.. >> >> Anyone at Xavier's college may check for this reference to check the >> plate and they will know the mistakes in the identity. I am also >> forwarding this mail to Shinde sir and his students for help. It would >> be great if any one of you can share an image of the plate available >> in Hortus Malabaricus. >> >> Very interestingly, a good news for Ms. Rashida Atthar will be that, >> Dr. Almeida's plate in his Flora of Maharastra seems to be correct. >> One of the main reasons could be as simple as the fact that he had an >> access to this book, Hortus Malabaricus at BLAT. Unfortunatley, I cant >> say this for all his orchids though!! >> >> Moral of the story: JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A REFERENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC >> OR NON-AUTHENTIC SITE or BOOK, DOESNT MAKE DETERMINATIVE OF ANY TAXA >> CORRECT. PLEASE RELY ON ORIGINAL SOURCES FOR IDENTIFICATION. >> >> Regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Research Associate >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> Wildlife Institute of India >> Post Box # 18 >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg ([email protected]) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per liberal licensing conditions attached with each image. 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